Sensible Erection | UN to Invade Texas

Saturday, 25 August 2012

quote [ The United Nations has scoffed at claims by a Texas judge that UN troops could invade the southern US state to settle a possible civil war, which the judge warned could be sparked if Barack Obama is re-elected in November. ]

Article in extended.

OK - It's only a comment by a county judge, but whisky tango foxtrot?

Does this mean that the UN won't come and defend Australia if Abbott gets a look in?

The United Nations has scoffed at claims by a Texas judge that UN troops could invade the southern US state to settle a possible civil war, which the judge warned could be sparked if Barack Obama is re-elected in November.

When asked if the United Nations had plans to invade Texas, UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon's spokesman, Martin Nesirky, said that was "absolutely ridiculous".

He later added: "No one, not even the United Nations, would ever mess with Texas."

He was responding to comments from Tom Head, a county judge in Lubbock, who told a local Fox News station on Monday that taxes needed to be raised so the county could prepare for contingencies if Mr Obama was re-elected for a second term.

"He (Obama) is going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the UN. What's going to happen when that happens? I'm thinking worst case scenario - civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe," Mr Head said.

"What's going happen ... if the public decides to do that? He's going to send in UN troops, I don't want them in Lubbock County. I'm going to stand in front of their armoured personnel carriers and say 'You're not coming in here'."

Mr Head told Fox News he has the backing of his local sheriff.

"I've already asked him 'Are you going to back me?' and he said 'Yeah I'll back you'."

[politics] [by antares@1:48amGMT] [+7 Funny]

Comments

Barnabas_Truman said @ 1:54am GMT on 25th Aug
No, the U.N. is not going to invade Texas, no matter how much we or the Texan paranoids wish they would.

If they did, I highly doubt that this judge would be able to stop them, even with the backing of his local sheriff.

ENZ said @ 2:38am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Funny]
Really. Where did this whole "don't mess with Texas!" thing come from, anyway? The Alamo? That dispute they had with Oklahoma over a bridge? If the saying was "don't mess with Texans!" it'd make more sense, because at least then it's about the individual Longhorn believing they're tougher than the run of the mill hillbilly. But what makes the actual state of Texas so much more formidable?

...ok, I looked it up. Apparently it's a slogan made up by the Texas Department of Transportation as a way of fighting litterbugs!

Wow.

bruceski said @ 2:49am GMT on 25th Aug
Yup. I've always preferred "toss no mas" from their neighbor.

EPT said @ 3:12am GMT on 25th Aug
I remember visiting the Alamo and they have storytellers that recount the battle. First dude was waffling on about Freedom and Freedom and Freedom and Texas and Freedom. Second dude was actually informative (though he did sign off with just one line of Freedom) and the way he described it, there was nothing magical about any of the battles, with the exception of the fort standing for two weeks. That wasn't his intention, but for each battle, given the facts, the expected people won.

Not to say maintaining your independence against a bigger nation isn't a worthy accomplishment, but it's not like Texas did the equivalent of North Vietnam against the US.

Barnabas_Truman said @ 9:47am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Funny]
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! The Alamo doesn't have a basement!

Hactar said @ 6:02am GMT on 26th Aug
Remember, the Texans were rebelling for the freedom to own slaves. If they hadn't wanted to keep owning black people, Texas would be part of Mexico.

snowfox said @ 2:25am GMT on 28th Aug
That's a simplification. The south had an economy based on cheap slave labor, which could not be quickly phased out. The same could be said of illegal immigrant workers today. Both cases are exploitative and wrong, but correcting the wrong-doing will have a serious impact on the economy when the goods and services in question increase in price. You can understand why people would be so resistant to change things. That doesn't make it right, but right is usually low on people's lists of concerns. That's why we all still wear shoes even though we know they're sewn by kids in sweatshops.

rndmnmbr said @ 5:48am GMT on 25th Aug
Tossing your aluminum cans out the window is locally called the Texas Feed A Wetback Program.

EPT said @ 6:18am GMT on 25th Aug
I spent a day driving from Fort Stockton to San Antonio. I reckon I saw as many dead dogs (from people's trucks, not wild) that day as in my entire previous driving history.

shiney things said @ 9:13pm GMT on 25th Aug
This comment made me remember that I have a huge pile of "Don't Mess with Texas" bumper stickers from my summer internship at TxDOT. Must locate....

schatten00777 said @ 2:23am GMT on 25th Aug
I fucking love America.

ENZ said @ 2:24am GMT on 25th Aug
Fuck me sideways with a pineapple, those assholes sure do love their persecution complexes, don't they?

perezoso said @ 2:39am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:2 Informative]
Obviously a whackjob, but for foreigners (i.e. people not from Texas), it should be noted that a "county judge" here is akin to what is called a "county commissioner" in a lot of other places. He has a role administering the county, and does not make judgements in a court of law (thank goodness).

rndmnmbr said @ 5:51am GMT on 25th Aug
On the contrary, a County Judge does indeed oversee criminal cases, although typically only misdemeanor charges and state felonies - or at least he does in this particular county.

Most serious crimes, on the other hand, are overseen by the local District Court.

perezoso said @ 9:35am GMT on 25th Aug
Here's "Function and Duties of the Commissioner's Court" of Lubbock County:

http://www.co.lubbock.tx.us/department/division.php?fDD=6-163

And Tom Head's official page:

http://www.co.lubbock.tx.us/department/division.php?fDD=6-21

The guy is fundamentally an administrator, not a "judge" in the common understanding of the term.

rndmnmbr said @ 7:13pm GMT on 25th Aug
Ok, sure. Lubbock County. Pop. 278,831, four county-level judges to handle the caseload. I'm sure county administration pretty much fills Judge Head's plate, and he doesn't get much of a chance to sit criminal cases. But I promise you, he's still qualified and capable to sit any county-level criminal case he damn well pleases, and does so from time to time.

perezoso said @ 9:19pm GMT on 25th Aug
My understanding is that while a County Judge (of the Commissioners Court) might perform judicial functions (of a relatively trivial nature) in very thinly populated counties in rural Texas, in the case of Lubbock (and every other sizable Texas county), the Legislature has established Courts-at-Law. In fact, in Lubbock County, there are three Courts-at-Law.

Judges in the Courts-at-Law hear criminal and civil cases, and must be attorneys. There is no such requirement for the County Judge (of the Commissioners Court), i.e. Tom Head, whose duties are administrative.

Sorry.

Lubbock County Courts at Law:

http://www.co.lubbock.tx.us/department/index.php?fDD=9-0

rndmnmbr said @ 4:12am GMT on 26th Aug
I think that's where our disagreement lies, because you are correct. Tom Head is nothing more than a county administrator, and does not adjudicate criminal law.

I live in one of those rural counties near Lubbock, and our county judge sits more cases than our district judge does. But then, except for Lubbock, Potter, and Randall counties, every other county in the Texas panhandle is one of those sparsely populated rural counties.

That being said, fuck Tom Head. I wonder how he likes knowing that the Lubbock City Council has more power and influence than he ever wishes he could have?

lilmookieesquire said @ 2:55am GMT on 25th Aug
There is something to be said for a nuclear strike and followup blitzkrieg on the south.

anagramophone said @ 2:59am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Funny]
No one, not even the United Nations, would ever mess with Texas

gold.

anagramophone said @ 3:03am GMT on 25th Aug
...and speaking of texas, richard linklater's film 'bernie' is definitely worth a viewing. some of his best work in a while.

foobar said @ 3:54am GMT on 25th Aug
Because no one wants to get that mess on their boots.

EPT said @ 5:17am GMT on 25th Aug
I loved that bit too, but I wonder if the judge who started this whole thing would even get the patronising sarcasm in that statement.

robotroadkill said @ 1:08pm GMT on 25th Aug
I'm guessing he swelled with pride.

he got a boner

Naruki said @ 3:00am GMT on 26th Aug
It came out of his mouth.

snowfox said @ 5:28am GMT on 25th Aug
I wish I could find it, but I can't. There was this great commercial for "Don't Mess With Texas." There's a little girl playing in a field of flowers. They throw garbage on her, "Imagine if your daughter were Texas" or something like that. It was one of the most brilliant PSAs I have ever seen.

wynterbourne said @ 4:01am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
Ok, I have to ask, why all the hatred for Texans? Those classified as "batshit insane" reside in every state in the nation. Every time I see a post that references Texas I see comments about how we need to be nuked, wiped off the map, how we're all assholes and inbred hicks, and so on.

For fuck's sake, some of us are somewhat enlightened.

ENZ said @ 4:21am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
Eh, a lot of has to do with how the vocal minority loves to rant on and on how Texas is the best damn state in the US, and how much they'd be better off if they just succeeded.

wynterbourne said @ 4:40am GMT on 25th Aug
I can definitely understand that.

I just find it somewhat frustrating that people denigrate us for the statements of a vocal minority, who admittedly tend to make overly violent and reactionary statements. Yet these same people advocate nuclear obliteration and/or a violent armed incursion.

Pot...meet Kettle.

ENZ said @ 4:51am GMT on 25th Aug
The difference is, one group makes those remarks in jest, while the other is completely serious.

bruceski said @ 5:03am GMT on 25th Aug
The difference is some people on one side make such comments in jest, know they're making the comments in jest, and then are surprised when others take then seriously because they think EVERYONE on their side makes them in jest while NOBODY on the other does.

ENZ said @ 5:19am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Interesting]
When one side makes those comments and has a large collection of firearms, I'm less inclined to believe they're being facetious.

lilmookieesquire said @ 5:16am GMT on 25th Aug
I said THE SOUTH.

Texas is largely fine in that it's getting ~~much more liberal~~ less conservative and moving in the ~~right~~left direction.

But it's still famous for being at the political vanguard of being republican. It's famous for shows like "Dallas". It's widely considered the polar opposite of California.

No one here really thinks the people Texas need to be nuked.

lilmookieesquire said @ 5:24am GMT on 25th Aug
And things like the whole textbooks for schools whitewashing history books being based in Texas. Texas has a well-earned conservative reputation, just like California has one for being a bankrupt moon-bat liberal hippie communist society. My relatives told me everyone thinks people in California are crazy. I think it was Pat Buchanan that called Berkeley "that communist area". It's the (largely political) reputation of the state. There are highly conservative parts and people of every political nuance there.

mrcucumber said @ 12:04pm GMT on 25th Aug [Score:2 Funny]
You mean Texas doesn't succeed? I mean, everybody would be better off if they succeeded, but someone's got to fail, right?

midden said @ 4:22am GMT on 25th Aug
One good thing from Texas: Lyle Lovett. And I generally dislike "country" music. Whatever you call what he does, I think he's pretty great.

bruceski said @ 4:45am GMT on 25th Aug
Their stereotype is Big and Loud, full of bluster. They'd give BRIAN BLESSED a run for his money. Only thing bigger than their egos are their hats.

I dunno what sorts of stuff us NMicans get saddled with, we're overshadowed by being crammed between Texas and Arizona. I know Santa Fe and Taos are where old hippies go to die, but other than that the only thing folks outside the state seem to know are the Manhattan Project and "that pot governor guy."

EPT said @ 6:15am GMT on 25th Aug
My one-step system for improving NM: stop pretending that painting concrete orange makes it look like adobe.

bruceski said @ 6:48am GMT on 25th Aug
Yeah. We also use a lot of pink and teal. The colors look great once they they fade in a couple of years of direct sunlight, but they're pretty crazy until then. You can always tell the new buildings.

GordonGuano said @ 7:18am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Funny]
Did you hear about the Texan who was so big that when he died, no coffin would fit him?

They gave him an enema and buried him in a matchbox.

anagramophone said @ 2:58pm GMT on 25th Aug

I dunno what sorts of stuff us NMicans get saddled with
Tony Hillerman?

snowfox said @ 5:08am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:2 Underrated]
Don't point it out. They will tell you that you are emotional and irrational. They will be bigger douchebags to you with each successive comment. It's a hopeless fight.

lilmookieesquire said @ 5:10am GMT on 25th Aug
In my defense, I did say "The South" and not "Texas".

snowfox said @ 5:57am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:2 Informative]
Fun fact: Only east Texas is the South. Fort Worth is where the West begins.

arrowhen said @ 6:26am GMT on 25th Aug
I always thought of Texas as more West than South (my Dad was a Texan, from a long line of poor white trash Bible-thumping dirt farmers and even he made fun of Southerners), but I never knew it was official.

lalanda said @ 8:39am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Funny]
I'm in Ca and I can assure you that Texas is east.

Barnabas_Truman said @ 9:45am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Good]

EPT said @ 10:42am GMT on 25th Aug
Is Monroe a libertarian, failing to see that he is part of something bigger than him?

schatten00777 said @ 1:53pm GMT on 25th Aug
This should only bug you if you're locality-centric. Americans think this is weird because they assume America is the central reference point for the global map. Why is North/South America in the middle of the map? Why is North America at the top? I guess what I'm saying is that people who are bugged by the "east/west absurdity" bug the crap out of me.

Barnabas_Truman said @ 5:25pm GMT on 25th Aug
Growing up in southern California and often going to Arizona and New Mexico on vacation, I always thought it strange that I had to travel northeast to get to the Southwest.

arrowhen said @ 8:22pm GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Funny]
When I lived in south Florida, you had to drive three hours north to get to The South.

bruceski said @ 9:18pm GMT on 25th Aug
My first time in Portland with my dad I was handed the map for directions. "Okay, we take 99 West northeast, cross a bridge, then take 99 East south." Makes sense when you get used to it (99 is two business roads running generally N/S on either side of the river) but my brain needed a moment to catch up to what my mouth had just said.

robotroadkill said @ 9:03pm GMT on 25th Aug
I agree. Not only that, but America is considered part of "the west" so the cartoon is wrong in the setup to the joke. The western hemisphere is where "the west" is and the eastern hemisphere is where "the east" is. Sure, on a globe it's arbitrary, but it is consistent.

EPT said @ 2:15am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
I believe the west/east is more about the occident/orient cultural divide, and just happens to be somewhat coincident with longitude/hemispheres. Oh, and coincident with sane maps that split the pacific instead of splitting Asia.

robotroadkill said @ 2:22am GMT on 26th Aug
I heard those maps were basically made to spite the commies and have a more USA-centric look at the globe for us (at the time) youngsters. Any input on that?

Barnabas_Truman said @ 2:35am GMT on 26th Aug
I've heard that Soviet elementary schools had similar maps, with Russia in the middle and the Americas split over the edge.

I've also heard speculation that the reason in both cases was to subtly portray one's own country as the center of the world and surrounded by enemies on both sides.

ENZ said @ 12:41pm GMT on 25th Aug
Texas was part of the Confederacy, so it's fair to count them as "the south"

anagramophone said @ 3:30pm GMT on 25th Aug [Score:2 Funny]

Hactar said @ 5:58am GMT on 26th Aug
Rick Perry and George Bush Jr. are the two politicians people think of when they think of Texas these days. (GWB was born in that northern part of Texas called Connecticut.)

Texas controls the textbooks that California does not and what they've been doing to history books is scary.

In many ways, it feels like Texas has the opposite setup of California or Oregon- the liberal enclaves are not strong enough to hold the rest of the state to sanity. So the jackasses and idiots become the spokespeople for the state.

The cowboy image portrayed in the media, which has become (at least in my mind) all hat, no cattle, so to speak. Beyond this, Texas gets lumped in with the attitudes about the South (well, southeast, but that's what we call the South), so there is the suspicion that all of you are sister-fucking racists. (This, of course ignores the fact that West Virginia actually split from Virginia and did not leave the US during the civil war- not sure about the limited last name thing, but WV is the most racist state in the country.) (I tend to half-spout shit about the south when I can as an attempt to fight the lost cause school of bullshit history. It's petty, but I feel I have to try- see two paragraphs down.)

Combine this with the weird state pride thing that seems to be in Texas (compare and contrast- I [heart] NY, Don't Mess With Texas - even though the second started as an anti-pollution campaign) people tend to forget that Texas produced LBJ and Molly Ivins. The 2003 redistricting didn't help much either.

I took a history class in which the teacher argued, and rather convincingly, that Texas was more part of the "West" in the US, rather than the South. The only cultural thing that Texas shared with the south was a dehumanizing view of black people and the desire to be able to rape black women without consequence. No one ever talks about southern gentry from Texas or plantations there.

Fun fact- if Alaska were split into 4 states, Texas would be the 5th largest state in the Union. If you added up the ten largest cities in Texas by population you still would have a city with a smaller population than New York City. (Admittedly, that's true of the the six largest cities in California also, but then, there aren't any jokes about the size of California.)

bruceski said @ 7:14am GMT on 26th Aug
I love living in spread-out states. People get out of the NM airport in Albuquerque and say "what a nice little town! How far away is the city?" Only to find out they're standing in it.

dangerm00se said @ 6:47am GMT on 25th Aug
THIS IS WHAT SOME CONSERVATIVES ACTUALLY BELIEVE. AND THEY EVIDENTLY HOLD POSITIONS OF POWER.

wenchgirl said @ 7:21am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:2 Informative]
Just like to add that I heard that the Lubbock County Sheriff, upon hearing this, had NO CLUE what this delusional idiot was talking about. There was no offer on backing him up on this whole UN invasion defense crap. Apparently they had discussed the tax increase to pay for competitive salaries for both law enforcement and the DA's office....apparently the two of them were not having the same conversation.

(tldr on the below parts, some people say "I'm from Austin, not Texas" so not all Texas or Texans are bad! :) )
Also on the Texas needing to be bombed or allowed to secede or whatever... I live in Austin, TX now. I used to live (and grew up in) Des Moines, IA. I am a liberal. Iowa is generally pretty liberal, until you get out into the way rural areas. My family is pretty conservative, but not to the point of insanity. I certainly don't dislike Iowa or Des Moines, but I LOVELOVELOVE Austin so much. I'm a huge geek and techie and now I work in the tech industry down here. I love the music, the art, the culture, the food, the awesome people, all the cool events...I could go on and on. Austin is so much fun and in and of itself is very liberal. The rest of Texas, generally, is pretty damn conservative, at least from what I have seen and heard so far (been here two years now). I have heard people joke (and have done so a couple times myself) "We're from Austin, not Texas." And I think that's a fairly prevalent mindset.

Also statistics are saying that in the next 20 years Texas will probably swing blue. The thinking behind this is the influx of other demographics, largely Latino but others as well, and the Republicans are not doing much of anything to avoid pissing them off. Not even cater to - they won't even try to avoid saying or doing horrible things. Blatantly. Like the redistricting problem where they very carefully changed the areas to dilute Latino and Black neighborhoods into larger districts that have always voted Republican. Shouldn't politicians be representing the people, which commonly tell the politicians what they want by vote? And not doing everything in their power to disenfranchise their constituents just to try to keep getting their own way?

EPT said @ 8:44am GMT on 25th Aug
Gerrymandering is fun. Check out this example from Ohio:

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source: http://motherjones.tumblr.com/post/10525905464/this-is-what-the-new-gerrymandered-ohio-district

Barnabas_Truman said @ 9:44am GMT on 25th Aug [Score:2 Funny]
Blue map with orange intrusions? Or orange map with blue intrusions? WE MAY NEVER KNOW

EPT said @ 10:42am GMT on 25th Aug
Damn you, now I can't unsee that!

Omegaphobic said @ 12:41am GMT on 26th Aug [Score:1 Funny]
FRACTAL ELECTORAL DISTRICT BORDERS

They're INFINITE in size!

Barnabas_Truman said @ 1:25am GMT on 26th Aug
Speaking of fractals, I just picked up LOGO again for the first time since fifth grade (about 20 years), and, after a brief reminder of the commands and a trial run of a polygon-drawing program, the first thing I did was set up a few subroutines that, together, would draw the Mandelbrot set. This may be the most fun I've ever had with a computer.

Urzazero said @ 4:03am GMT on 26th Aug
I haven't done logo in about 28 years! I would ask where to get it, but I could probably just use Google.

Barnabas_Truman said @ 2:10am GMT on 28th Aug
I've been using ACSLogo (recent Mac only; multi-windowed user interface) and Berkeley Logo (cross-platform; single command line user interface).

Here's a reasonable browser-based one.

RhesusMonkey said @ 2:01pm GMT on 25th Aug
Texas is to the US what Quebec is to Canada. Full of politicians that like to make batshit promises of Sovereignty and Social Benefit while leeching off the rest of the nation. And islands (sometimes literally) of sanity in an otherwise insane (seeming) place.

It's preferably to realize that most people living in those regions are not batshit insane, and that the vocal people who are tend to be in the minority.

LeavemeAlone said @ 2:15pm GMT on 25th Aug
Not quite. Texas actually pays more in taxes than it takes in. Of any of the Conservative states that say that the federal government should shrink, Texas is one of the few complaining for economic reasons.

shiney things said @ 9:08pm GMT on 25th Aug
Keep in mind, this is largely because Texas routinely turns down federal funds it desperately needs. If Texas accepted the funding it needs from the federal government for education, health care, and transportation, this would absolutely not be the case.

This is what we get for electing Rick "Motherfucker" Perry over and over again.

snowfox said @ 9:17pm GMT on 25th Aug
I suspect the reason is that those funds would help poor people, and the wealthy assholes who run things don't want that to happen. They don't care about mass transit they don't use or public schools they would never send their children to. Racism probably also plays a role in this (it certainly did with the defunding of public schools).

Weird thing to know: Desegregation of schools was not a big deal in Texas. This is not because Texans were cool with mixed schools, but because the ones in power could easily afford to send their kids to private schools. Having done this, they had two reasons to let public schools go to shit: 1) their kids don't go to them, and 2) those schools are full of minorities.

I think at this point we're just waiting for all the old white people to die off so we can fix this place.

ENZ said @ 9:20pm GMT on 25th Aug
That's assuming of course that those privately-educated legacy kids who'll end up inheriting the economic and political influence of their old white parents would be much better.

RhesusMonkey said @ 11:33am GMT on 26th Aug
"Leeching" can mean a lot of things; it could mean a net influx of transfer payments, or it could mean that you claim "job creation" in your state at the expense of your neighbors.

anagramophone said @ 8:35pm GMT on 25th Aug
i wish i appreciated living austin as much as you do

bbqkink said @ 8:40pm GMT on 25th Aug
Romney to Ron Paul supporters..KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SHUT

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shiney things said @ 9:15pm GMT on 25th Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
I anyone invades Texas, please leave our breweries alone. We've spent the last several years cultivating a wonderful craft-brew culture.

New World Order said @ 9:45pm GMT on 25th Aug
We can make no promises.

anagramophone said @ 10:22pm GMT on 25th Aug
lol wut

theolypse said @ 12:08am GMT on 26th Aug
Pennsylvania and California really have you trashed, though.

arrowhen said @ 1:32am GMT on 26th Aug
Shiner's Hef, 101, and Bohemian Black Lager all place very high on my list of favorite session beers.

maryyugo said @ 9:30pm GMT on 25th Aug
The UN couldn't invade a parking lot.

chold_numa said @ 9:33pm GMT on 25th Aug
I don't want to think about Abbott getting in, even though in the back of my mind it seems inevitable. It'll be an unpleasant time for anyone who's not white, Christian, heterosexual, and rich/middle class.

Omegaphobic said @ 12:44am GMT on 26th Aug
He's doing everything he can to shoot himself in the foot. Fingers crossed he succeeds. Even if the LNP have to field someone else who will inevitably win it'd be a better option than having him in charge.

Omegaphobic said @ 12:44am GMT on 26th Aug

pleaides said @ 12:46am GMT on 26th Aug
A few more sessions with Leigh Sales and Turnbull will bop him on the head and take his place.

chold_numa said @ 1:04pm GMT on 26th Aug
If only. Turnbull doesn't have the numbers to mount a challenge. He doesn't come across as particularly charismatic either (which seems to be a qualification to be the leader these days, regardless of ability/policy).

My only hope is that Abbott decides to go back to the seminary and then leaves to Central Africa on a mission, not coming back to Australia until the hideous blight of the Liberal party and its modern legacy has been scrubbed from the Australian consciousness.

Ronin.ca said @ 12:28am GMT on 27th Aug
"UN Troops"?