Sensible Erection | Megadeth's Dave Mustaine outs himself as batshit insane ultra right-wing conspiracy theorist

Thursday, 16 August 2012

Megadeth's Dave Mustaine outs himself as batshit insane ultra right-wing conspiracy theorist

quote [ "Back in my country, my president is trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders..." ]

Seth and Amy are off tonight so can I just say "Really, Dave? Really?"

According to the article, he's been doing this for a while. Maybe it's that adage about any publicity is good publicity?

[by ahPook@3:17amGMT] [+10 WTF]

Comments

KingPellinore said @ 3:20am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:4 Insightful]
Who gives a shit? Wagner was an anti-semetic fuck, but Ride of the Valkyries remains awesome.

sanepride said @ 3:08pm GMT on 16th Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
This is true, but I would counter by pointing out that Wagner can no longer personally profit from the enjoyment and commerce of his music (His descendents btw are quite contrite and have disavowed his personal views).
Basically, contemporary artists can have whatever crazy-ass views they want, but if they use their notoriety to broadcast and amplify those views (I'd say Ted Nugent and Mel Gibson fall into this category), it is perfectly appropriate to ridicule, condemn, and even boycott them.

hellboy said @ 6:22pm GMT on 16th Aug
I don't believe in rewarding bad behavior.

* (The Asshole FKA Morris) said @ 3:25am GMT on 16th Aug
Three things.

1) there is nothing about those statements that can be construed as neo conservative. Batshit yes, neo conservative..imagine David Frum or Jeanne Kirkpatrick uttering that nonsense.

2) Who and what is megadeath?

3) Why should anyone care what a peripheral pop group says in Singapore?

graham said @ 3:39am GMT on 16th Aug
1) didn't read
2) band
3) stopped caring

Cakkafracle said @ 4:03am GMT on 16th Aug
*deth

killing is their business, so far so good. peace sells but who's buying. rust in piece..

i am not surprised he is a fuckin' nutbag

and he kicked James's dog!!

DarkShadowRavenDragonGrrl69 said @ 4:57am GMT on 16th Aug
I'm not sure why the location matters.

* (The Asshole FKA Morris) said @ 1:34pm GMT on 16th Aug
Because Singapore has yet to decide the outcome of a US election.

mechanical contrivance said @ 11:25pm GMT on 16th Aug
That's what they want you to think.

happiest_sadist said @ 5:11am GMT on 16th Aug
2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megadeath

Megadeth is a shitty metal band fronted by a sociopathic, whining nonce too lame even for Metallica. Also, he can't spell.

arrowhen said @ 5:43am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
2) Who and what is megadeath?

They were a band who were really angry that they weren't Metallica, back when Metallica was awesome.

3) Why should anyone care what a peripheral pop group says in Singapore?

You shouldn't care any more about a musician's political opinions than you would about a politician's musical opinions.

backSLIDER said @ 7:18am GMT on 16th Aug
I just realized that my assumption that all politician's musical taste is for smooth jazz has no base. I have no idea why I think that.

arrowhen said @ 10:19am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
As an aging punk rocker who has played guitar, bass, drums, AND sung in a punk rock format, I've also played drums in a "smooth jazz" context where despite the fact that all I was doing was "ding, ding-a dink, ding-a BOOM", I felt like music was a fucking awesome thing and if maybe we all just stopped trying to be so goddamned important we could all just stop trying to be important and focus on being fun the people who were listening to us could also stop trying to be important and just focus on enjoying music and let that that be their major political statement could realize that music is rad and maybe "this is a thing that I like and it's rad" is all the statement that you need to make.

willrogers said @ 7:27am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
I don't know about that for #3. There are plenty of classic rock and folk musicians whose music was instrumental to the counterculture and anti-Vietnam War movements and a lot of punk bands that were reactions to the conservatism of the 80s (e.g. Dead Kennedys, Bad Religion, etc.).

arrowhen said @ 9:46am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:2 Insightful]
Yes, but there were plenty of bands of those eras whose music didn't fit into such convienient categories.

I'm a huge Dead Kennedys fan, for example, but listen again to the lyrics of California Uber Alles:

It's an unmistakeable screed against famously liberal political Jerry Brown (who we'd be lucky to have as a presidential candidate today), only to be replaced several years later with We've Got A Bigger Problem Now, about Ronald Reagan (who as a die hard socialist heart-on-his-sleeve, NPR-listening, arugula-munching liberal I would 100% vote for today):

...because individual politics are meaningless fucking bullshit at Jim Morrison knew back in 1968...

...and Muse redicovered in 2009.

...because if you can't listen to those two songs and recognize them as the same fucking song, you don't deserve the pleasure of listening to music.

arrowhen said @ 10:01am GMT on 16th Aug
And I should point out that I don't even like Muse that much, except they're fucking hilarious in an era where no other band fucking dares being fucking hilarious.

I mean, come on:

If you could flick a switch and open your third eye,
You'd see that
We should never be afraid to die

but that you can say that shit on a jukebox in a fucking mainstream bar in the last half of the 2000's is fucking goddamned hilarious, and that you can have a line like "they will stop degrading us" in the middle of a goddamned pop song is pure fucking genius, and as an old person, I sincerely hope that I live long enough that those sentiments become old (again!) and I'm allowed, as an old person, to continue enjoying them.

DarkShadowRavenDragonGrrl69 said @ 10:08am GMT on 16th Aug
That particular quote sounds like Tool's Parabola.

burning1 said @ 6:50am GMT on 20th Aug
Sounds like the kind of Lyric an 11 year old would write after listening to Third Eye, perhaps. Tool's not up there with Zeppelin, but they do a lot better than that.

Mr. Langosta said @ 5:17pm GMT on 16th Aug
not enough upmods

drzapato said @ 9:58am GMT on 19th Aug
Wait... you as a "die hard socialist heart-on-his-sleeve, NPR-listening, arugula-munching liberal" would 100% vote for Reagan today?

Trickle-down economics, explode the federal deficit, iran-contra Reagan?

why??

mechanical contrivance said @ 3:41am GMT on 16th Aug
I always figured Dave was a conservative like Johnny Ramone. And I'm not surprised he's insane, either.

happiest_sadist said @ 5:12am GMT on 16th Aug
From now on I shall refer to Mustaine as "mini-Nuge"

willrogers said @ 7:21am GMT on 16th Aug
It's pretty crazy for any punks to be conservative, as it's generally a leftist or anarchist movement. At least with heavy metal you have a fan base that's a bit more diverse and casual, including a lot of jocks and meatheads who were going to be conservative dicks anyways.

arrowhen said @ 7:15pm GMT on 16th Aug
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skrewdriver

damnit said @ 3:56am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:1 Funny]
Before we phase out anything Olympic related.

zenviper said @ 3:56am GMT on 16th Aug
He outted himself to this a while back... still, his guitar playing has improved.. so let's take the good with the bad. :)

damnit said @ 4:03am GMT on 16th Aug
He's no Ted Nugent... close, though.

arrowhen said @ 6:30am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:3 Underrated]
Unlike Nugent, Dave Mustain played more than one good riff.

damnit said @ 8:15am GMT on 16th Aug
I meant that as a dig on Nugent's crazy-o-meter

rangerx said @ 7:35pm GMT on 16th Aug
Is that the box that goes between the amp and that little floor peddle thingy?

assbastard said @ 7:41pm GMT on 16th Aug
I think it's on the rack of pre-amps.

ckfahrenheit said @ 5:04pm GMT on 16th Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
live version of Hibernation is awfully pretty though

radioelectric said @ 4:06am GMT on 16th Aug
It's 5am and I cannot fucking sleep.

zenviper said @ 4:27am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
masturbate and take a shot of liquor you have which you favor the least.

mechanical contrivance said @ 4:33am GMT on 16th Aug
sleeping pills. not too many. use as directed

b said @ 4:40am GMT on 16th Aug
I recommend sex.

tickaz said @ 8:13am GMT on 16th Aug
codeine is good

mechanical contrivance said @ 11:29pm GMT on 16th Aug
pills are good. pills are goooooooood.

Supreme_Coconut said @ 5:21am GMT on 16th Aug
It saddens me that he's such an outright shitbag because I fucking LOVE me some Megadeth.

traitor said @ 5:22am GMT on 16th Aug
I think "Peace Sells" was one of the best metal records of the 80's and Chris Poland was an amazing guitar player. "Killing is My Business" is a pretty fun record and a few songs on "Rust in Piece" are great. After that Megadeth loses me, but I still enjoy the best Megadeth songs more than the best Metallica songs.

Mustaine has always been a total wacko, that's kinda what used to make him fun - until he cooked himself.

willrogers said @ 7:19am GMT on 16th Aug
Yeah, he was weird back at the height of Megadeth's popularity, so it's not really all that surprising that he got even crazier over time with age.

lilmookieesquire said @ 6:03am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:1 Insightful]
It saddens me that my Jr. High/High School go-to-music creators all turned out to be such absolute shitheads.

arrowhen said @ 6:27am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:2]
It saddens me that when I was in jr. high/high school I expected people who made entertainment I liked to also be cool people. It took me way to figure out that enjoying a particular piece of entertainment was just a mostly meaningless aesthetic choice, not a subscription to a goddamned lifestyle; once I did, my horizons expanded exponentially, to the point where I could finally enjoy both punk rock and Van Halen without the slightest bit of self-doubt.

On the other hand, Orson Scott Card is a fucking dickbag who can eat a bag of not only dicks, but gay married dicks, the fucking fuck, and I'm ashamed of ever liking his books.

arrowhen said @ 6:29am GMT on 16th Aug [Score:1 Good]
There should have been an "o long" in there somewhere. Preferably a gay married "o long" up Orson Scott Card's ass.

Isosceles Lockâ„¢ said @ 10:34am GMT on 16th Aug
In junior high I watched all of the Metallica/Megadeth docs, and I so I knew from the start what a poor loser, butt hurt, whining, redheaded step child Mustaine was.

Metallica also had their respect-receiving forfeited pre-napster shittery by listening to them brag about how shitty they treated Jason and some guy before him, trying to electrocute him and being non stop bullys. On top of that blaming it on losing Cliff???? Cliff would've left the band if he had know what shitbags you guys were.

sanepride said @ 3:13pm GMT on 16th Aug
Look at the bright side-
You at least have grown up and matured since jr. high school.

GordonGuano said @ 10:57am GMT on 16th Aug
I hope King Diamond doesn't turn out to be a douche.

ttsxii said @ 12:02pm GMT on 16th Aug
This must have been discussed at the Algonquin Round Table with Ted Nugent and Rush Limbaugh.

Isosceles Lock™ said @ 2:41pm GMT on 16th Aug [Score:3 Funny]

sanepride said @ 3:11pm GMT on 16th Aug
I love how the audience member yells "Hey we love Obama!" as he launches into his rant.

ahPook said @ 8:16pm GMT on 16th Aug
I love how he suggests that if Obama gets his (actually non-existent) anti-gun legislation, he might have to move to Singapore. Um, Mr Burnout? Singapore is not exactly a bastion of individual rights. And as far as gun laws go, among other things, they are practically illegal compared to the U.S.
For instance, automatic weapons are completely illegal in Singapore, so no deer hunting in full camo with an AK-47.