Wednesday, 25 April 2012

Fracked Up!

quote [ Three hundred miles due north of Deadwood, South Dakota and roughly half as many years past its 1870s heyday, a new gold rush is threatening to give that storied spectacle of exuberant capitalism a run for its money. ]

25$/hour as a waitress. Prostitutes bringing home thousands a night. Life in the wilds of North Dakota.

Welcome to the Boomtown.

[by RedRiverRat@5:08amGMT] [+10 Interesting]

Comments

RedRiverRat said @ 5:12am GMT on 25th Apr
Ronin.ca said @ 5:20am GMT on 25th Apr
I am, frankly, terrified by what will happen if the NZ government insists on continuing on it's path of allowing fracking in Canterbury.
papango said @ 5:38am GMT on 25th Apr
Oh, look. John Key's had dinner with the guy running the company and he's relaxed about it being the only offer on the table and if we have to change some laws for big multi-nationals and shaft the actual people who actually live here then hobbit hobbit.
Regular Average SE User said @ 6:48am GMT on 25th Apr
I for one think fraking is healthy and good for many things.
Nothing strange about John Key's dinner with a horribly handsome gentleman from your friendly local multi-national franking industry!
papango said @ 7:19am GMT on 25th Apr [Score:2 Informative]
It's about what's good for new cylinders. I don't want to be judge judy and executioner, but mums and dads mums and dads mums and dads.

(I've spent most of this week working at Parliament, and the intranet system plays the PM's 'chats' when you turn it on. It's doing my head in.)
Ronin.ca said @ 2:08am GMT on 26th Apr
Now now I think you're typification of his speach is aaaccctully quite pathetic (he's dropped that one now eh?).

If he says "kiwi mums and dads" one more time I might reach through the tv and grab him..


I swear to god though, the idea of fracking here is the stupidest thing ever. But, given the Minister of Mordor is in charge of that shit and fucking up Christchurch.. um.. the rebuild they'll just push it through under CERA or via rush debate (like they did with Skynet).

Bastards. The lot of them.

And the worst thing is that 50% of the population seems content to run them off the cliff.
CompletelyIrrelevant said @ 11:38am GMT on 26th Apr
50% of the population that bothered to show up to vote, largely disagreed with their policies and yet voted for them anyway because there was 'no alternatives' >.<

The BRILLIANT part of it all is how many people voted for National because of tax... when National weren't cutting tax and Labour WERE offering a tax cut for the vast majority (with a nominal 3% increase on the tax rate of a newly created top income bracket set higher than the income of almost all of our politicians)
I saw people claiming that Labour's tax policy which wouldn't even touch 90% of Parliament, was going to ruin the WORKING CLASS. A 3% increase on a newly created top bracket, and tax on capital gains... who the fuck in the working class has two houses or a spare luxury yacht?

70-80% oppose asset sales but voted for the party that wants to sell them off.
Our Libertarians and our Socialists each have 1% of the vote, yet John Banks has his hand in I believe five ministerial portfolios, and Mana are left high and dry.

Democracy? Where?
Ronin.ca said @ 4:21am GMT on 29th Apr
I think the Banks issue is sorting itself out nicely.
CompletelyIrrelevant said @ 7:05am GMT on 29th Apr
I sure do love me some schadenfreude ;)
satanspenis666 said @ 5:40am GMT on 25th Apr [Score:1 Interesting]
sanepride said @ 5:58am GMT on 25th Apr
That is pretty fucking impressive. I wonder if this due to actual contaminants in the water or natural gas that has somehow permeated the water supply and is escaping from the tap with the water.
Mr. Langosta said @ 6:03am GMT on 25th Apr
The latter
G. W. Bush said @ 8:43am GMT on 25th Apr
coming from drilling, I know how things go. "FUCK IT GOOD ENOUGH!" I wouldn't trust any company.
sanepride said @ 4:59pm GMT on 25th Apr
Especially companies that the government has exempted from having to disclose their drilling practices and materials.
Seneki69 said @ 11:38am GMT on 25th Apr
The movie Gasland is all about this, and is quite interesting.

Also - I recently found out that fracking has already started in QLD, Aus... :(
tickaz said @ 1:11am GMT on 26th Apr
Yeah now that cunt Campbell Newman is in charge... my friend at the Environment Protection Agency is very very afraid of what he and his pro-development buddies are going to do to Queensland....
dietcoke said @ 3:49am GMT on 26th Apr
I CALL B ULLSHIT this is a mudlogging trailor, made for oilfield work and it is not a home. he has probably set the gaslines into the water supply, this is not a house.
Where the hell is this guy from? He is not from ND that is for sure
fz75 said @ 5:35am GMT on 26th Apr
fuck u government twat.
germanjulian said @ 6:29am GMT on 25th Apr
Loads of issues with these boom towns :0

This is about the tar sand boom town Fort McMurray

http://www.economist.com/node/9410672

cant find a better more hip/truth article i read which i think was on vice
GordonGuano said @ 7:48am GMT on 25th Apr
My brother in law went out to the Dakotas and started making $2000/week (after taxes) hauling water. That went well for a week or so, then he started spending $2000/week on meth and cocaine to be able to stay up for the 90+ hours a week he was expected to work.
G. W. Bush said @ 8:45am GMT on 25th Apr
lol i love the people who blame it on the hours of work to why they turned to drugs. I work in the drilling industry the people that do drugs want to do them.
cb361 said @ 8:53am GMT on 25th Apr
Yeah. What's wrong with modafinil, you pussies?

Or z-sup? You'll never sleep again, and only the occasional extra-dimensional dream-monster breaking into reality will interfere with putting in a 112 hour week.
Mr. Langosta said @ 9:30am GMT on 25th Apr
Five Five Hour Energies get you through the day and into tomorrow.
oranges said @ 1:27pm GMT on 25th Apr
You missed the powernap reference.
cb361 said @ 2:00pm GMT on 25th Apr
"science fiction story heavily oriented towards action and humor."
eIfish said @ 10:59pm GMT on 25th Apr
Interesting to discover she's still alive.

I've got the CD from 2001 kicking around somewhere.
GordonGuano said @ 9:35am GMT on 25th Apr
You have a point there, even accounting for local inflation enough crystal meth to keep you awake all week probably isn't much more than a few hundred bucks. But I don't see a thermos of coffee getting me through a 36-hour shift.
willrogers said @ 9:54am GMT on 25th Apr
You are aware that meth is an addictive substance, right?

Even if you are just using a relatively small amount, if you do so on a daily basis, there's a relatively good chance of addiction developing. This is not to say that recreational or minor use of otherwise addictive drugs is impossible, just that it's unlikely for most people. Shit, we can't even deal with people just fucking themselves up with food, let alone something like meth.
cb361 said @ 10:05am GMT on 25th Apr
Food. Not even once.
cb361 said @ 10:16am GMT on 25th Apr
This is your brain. This is your brain on eggs.
cb361 said @ 10:23am GMT on 25th Apr
Coriander is just a herb, man. A herb.
Supreme_Coconut said @ 3:40pm GMT on 25th Apr
An*
cb361 said @ 8:32pm GMT on 25th Apr
Don' try an bring me down, man. I've droped six Krispy Kreme and I'm as high as a fuckin' ... oohhhh, downer.
DuncmanG said @ 10:01pm GMT on 25th Apr [Score:2]
There's a fucking h in it.

tickaz said @ 1:24am GMT on 26th Apr
Yeah, the american pronounciation of "aluminium" ALWAYS got on my nerve.
mechanical contrivance said @ 2:34am GMT on 26th Apr
I pronounce it aluminuminuminum. Is that not correct?
robotroadkill said @ 2:45am GMT on 26th Apr
You'll find it's consistent with the American spelling of "aluminum"
tickaz said @ 2:00pm GMT on 26th Apr
So they just dropped a vowel? How quaint.
theolypse said @ 12:16am GMT on 27th Apr
You added one to sound posh, really.
Supreme_Coconut said @ 1:22am GMT on 27th Apr
It's like all those goddamned u's they put everywhere.
odour.
colour.
Seriously. Fuck you people. Learn to speak English.
dietcoke said @ 3:52am GMT on 26th Apr
if you mine it, you get to pronounce it the way you wish.
If all your country does is consume it......stfu
papango said @ 6:06am GMT on 26th Apr [Score:3 Informative]
You can't mine aluminium you cretin, isn't found in nature as a pure element.You mine bauxite and it mostly comes from Australia. We're it's pronounced aluminium.
GordonGuano said @ 6:13am GMT on 26th Apr
Thanks for reminding me I don't use the word "cretin" enough.
mechanical contrivance said @ 11:16pm GMT on 26th Apr
There's no stopping the cretins from hopping.
tickaz said @ 1:59pm GMT on 26th Apr
Thanks papango.

And I should note that I am actually from Australia - so your (dietcoke's) attempt at an insult was such an inept failure that at this point you should probably just kill yourself.
azazel said @ 10:36am GMT on 26th Apr
Despite it being the original name?
brat#3 said @ 2:46pm GMT on 26th Apr
Yeah, I remember reading that the person who discovered it (Davy) called it Aluminum but then renamed it Aluminium to fit in with all the other elements (some of which he'd already named, with -ium endings, so no idea wtf he was thinking). Which means technically the American spelling was correct up until 1812, and you can blame most present-day usage on the fact that Webster's dictionary used Aluminum in 1828 even though it wasn't even the common spelling at the time.

And before it was Aluminum it was alumium, so really using aluminum is kinda dumb because it was neither the first name he gave it nor the one he actually settled on.

I should be asleep.
theolypse said @ 12:18am GMT on 27th Apr
Danny just hated the Whigs, really.
theolypse said @ 12:18am GMT on 27th Apr
Oh, fuck, meant the Tories.
GordonGuano said @ 10:14am GMT on 25th Apr
Yes, I am aware that meth is addictive, and your point about food is well taken. I was referring more to its relative cheapness. I have yet to be propositioned by a meth whore for more than $20, so I assume that's the going rate for a dose (I have no idea how many doses are in a $300 gram, you'd think Breaking Bad would have taught me all this by now). I don't imagine my brother in law was actually doing $2000/week in just meth by himself, I'm guessing there were other drugs and people involved.
MrZeroPing said @ 10:19am GMT on 25th Apr
Is your brother-in-law doing better? I'm sorry to hear about that.
GordonGuano said @ 10:32am GMT on 25th Apr
Yeah, he got fired and came back east in pretty short order, and was working again in a few weeks. It happened fast enough the meth hadn't really sunk its teeth into him yet. Or so he says, anyway.
willrogers said @ 11:11am GMT on 25th Apr
It depends on several factors, including the purity of the drug (relative to cutting agents and the quality of the production process), method of administration (intravenous, inhalation, insufflation, etc.), individual tolerance, etc., so it's really difficult to tell how much a "typical" meth addict would use per day.

Someone with a heavy tolerance could easily use more than gram a day intravenously, depending on purity, so meth can be a pretty expensive habit down the line.
dietcoke said @ 3:51am GMT on 26th Apr [Score:-1 Troll]
the Dakotas? What are you, an idiot? there is no big oil money in SD, he came to ND, say North Dakota, or admit you are making this all up.
Only a southern person cannot remember North or South Dakota lol
GordonGuano said @ 4:08am GMT on 26th Apr [Score:1 Insightful]
One cold, parched shithole is pretty much the same as another to me, I fear. To be fair though, North and South Carolina are pretty much only distinguishable in that NC has a slightly higher average number of teeth per capita.
papango said @ 6:36am GMT on 27th Apr
I've always thought that to save money and in the interests of small Government that they should combined North and South Dakota into one state. Nobody needs two Dakotas, almost nobody lives in either of them. And, as you point out, they're pretty much indistinguishable.
theolypse said @ 12:20am GMT on 27th Apr
You're pretty versed on Yukon salmon subspecies, right?
DuncmanG said @ 12:25pm GMT on 25th Apr
In Boomtown, you'll need yourself a boomstick. Here's a place you can go practice:

Boomstick!
* (The Asshole FKA Morris) said @ 2:24pm GMT on 25th Apr
$25 an hour sounds good for a waitress, but it is really on so so...my wife is a bartender, with her hourly wage she makes on average $30-35 an hour....and is only taxed on the $10 an hour which is her salary.

My understanding is that prostitutes normally make over $1000 a night...

All in all though, with the amount of recoverable oil in the ground, it will be a long and prosperous boom. More power to them.
sanepride said @ 5:02pm GMT on 25th Apr
Well the point is more power to all of us isn't it? Plentiful, cheap, greenhouse-gas fossil fuel power. What could possibly go wrong?
spite48 said @ 6:06pm GMT on 25th Apr
Plus we're sterilizing our riparian systems with cleansers, adding free enhancers to our drinking water and loosening up the earth's crust!
sanepride said @ 8:23pm GMT on 25th Apr
But hey, cheap fuel!
Gonna make an omelet, gotta break some eggs, right?
* (The Asshole FKA Morris) said @ 7:13pm GMT on 25th Apr
Nothing other than a larger oil find in shallow waters in the gulf coast.

Or Keystone being approved....
sanepride said @ 8:23pm GMT on 25th Apr
I think what you mean to say can best be summed up as "Drill baby drill!"
willrogers said @ 1:49am GMT on 26th Apr
Wait, are you saying that your wife isn't paying the taxes on her tips?

You know that's illegal, right?

Just hope no one ever finds out or your wife and her employer are fucked.
sanepride said @ 3:22am GMT on 26th Apr
I don't think Morris (and probably his wife) are subject to the tax laws of the US.
feldenglas said @ 2:35pm GMT on 25th Apr
Beverly is fucking two ewoks on the holodeck.
cb361 said @ 2:43pm GMT on 25th Apr
Oh thank you so very very much. Now I'm horny, and it's hours before I get to go home. ewoks...
Fenny said @ 2:48pm GMT on 25th Apr
Oo pa ta hoota!
cb361 said @ 8:29pm GMT on 25th Apr
There is surprisingly little Star Trek slash ewok porn on the internet.
feldenglas said @ 8:34pm GMT on 25th Apr
nature abhors a vacuum.
cb361 said @ 12:54am GMT on 26th Apr
cb361 said @ 1:26am GMT on 26th Apr
Woh. big.
mechanical contrivance said @ 2:36am GMT on 26th Apr
Did someone take a picture of their monitor instead of taking a screenshot? Or just saving the image that was on the screen?
Seneki69 said @ 6:50am GMT on 27th Apr
Might not have been their monitor, but they had a camera/phone handy?
Lacuna said @ 3:09pm GMT on 25th Apr
Detroit was a boom town that busted. And we all know how it's going here.
that1guy said @ 4:04pm GMT on 25th Apr
The "side effects" of this "Bakken boom"
Small towns have small infrastructer, unable to adequately support rapid population growth.
The kidnapping and brutal murder of a Sidney, Montana teacher. Once a quiet place where everyone new everybody, is no longer a sleepy town.
More...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/as-bakken-oil-field-booms-law-enforcement-prepares-for-change-in-rural-mont-nd-canada/2012/04/23/gIQAlfWMbT_story.html

Fuckin' frackers
spite48 said @ 6:18pm GMT on 25th Apr
Plus possibly earthquakes?

http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/news-events/seismologists-link-ohio-earthquakes-waste-disposal-wells
dietcoke said @ 3:47am GMT on 26th Apr [Score:1 Informative]
I live in North Dakota, pretty much every new job is oil related
There is zero housing available in most of ND, people are living in cars, tents, garages, and alot in cars or RV's
The level of pests is climbing ,we went from a state with basically zero roaches, bedbugs and rats to every motel, hotel and rental area having some form of bug from workers from down south bringing up insects and rats, the environmental impact is HUGE!!
ND simply does not have the water resources to handle this influx of people, and the ones coming will pay literally just about any amount of money to have a place to live or park.
I am renting a 15x20 foot spot in one of our garages to a guy from Texas for 1 grand a month for him to park his 68 Mustang in. He would probably pay me alot more.
I am also renting spots to locals in the same garage for 100 bucks a month, the oil guys are making so much money that a grand is literally nothing to them.

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