Sensible Erection | Ann Romney denied "the dignity of work".

Sunday, 15 April 2012

Ann Romney denied "the dignity of work".

quote [ "that even if you have a child 2 years of age, you need to go to work....It'll cost the state more providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.'" ]

This is about the Democrats lacking the courage of their convictions and their willingness to throw one of their own under the bus rather than stand up to GOP bullshit.

This all started with this comment.

“What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, ‘Well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues’ and, ‘When I listen to my wife, that’s what I’m hearing,’” she said. “Guess what? His wife has never actually worked a day in her life. She’s never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school and how do we — why we worry about their future.’

Then instead of saying something like..
Although being a STAY AT HOME MOM is an important responsibility it is not the same as having those same responsibilities combined with having to deal with the pressures of the workplace and the time demands that being EMPLOYED adds to those responsibilities.

Instead, everybody from POTUS on down said how important being a mother is and how insensitive Hilary Rosen was for saying such a thing.

So instead of the news being about the hardships that the GOP agenda is and has been on women..

Wisconsin Equal Pay Law Repealed Because “Money Is More Important For Men”

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/wisconsin-equal-pay-law-repealed-because-money-is-more-important-for-men.html#ixzz1s8FsS5nb

Hoekstra: Pay Equity Is A “Nuisance” That’s “Hurting Business”

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/hoekstra-pay-equity-is-a-nuisance-thats-hurting-business.html#ixzz1s8HlPYwv

Baseless Survey Claiming Women Would Choose Bigger Boobs Over Brains, Covered on CBS News

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/baseless-survey-claiming-women-would-choose-bigger-boobs-over-brains-covered-on-cbs-news.html#ixzz1s8Hxo059

Want Child Support? First Prove To Your Ex You Aren’t On Drugs

Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/want-child-support-first-prove-to-your-ex-you-arent-on-drugs.html#ixzz1s8IBkRca

http://pol.moveon.org/waronwomen/

I could go on but...

It has been on how the Democrats hate stay at home moms.

If this any indication of how the Dems are going to respond to GOP talking points, that lead they have in the polls will melt just like their courage of their convictions.

[politics] [by bbqkink@6:11pmGMT] [+3 Interesting]

Comments

zenviper said @ 6:21pm GMT on 15th Apr
I would rather have a really big cock than be super smart... well, up to a point.

I would take a 10" dick over a 180 IQ

krupa said @ 6:51pm GMT on 15th Apr
How about 7.5" and ~170 IQ?

krupa said @ 6:52pm GMT on 15th Apr
Ah.. you meant that you'd... nevermind.

arrowhen said @ 8:11pm GMT on 15th Apr
I'd give up 40 IQ points for enough money that I'd never have to work again.

MachPi said @ 9:03pm GMT on 15th Apr [Score:1 Funny]
I imagine that could probably be arranged, but it would involve a hammer and the risk of overshooting your goal.

zsander said @ 4:51am GMT on 16th Apr

bbqkink said @ 8:25pm GMT on 15th Apr
I looks like you have mastered the conservative debating style indeed.

The ability to take a conversation about women, and I am assuming a made up statement about women wanting bigger breast instead of brains and turn that into a narrative about you dick or lack there off..amazing, you may have a future in the Republican party

zenviper said @ 10:37pm GMT on 15th Apr
I think you misunderstood my intent...

Whether the survey was misrepresented or not, I think it is a reasonable response for a man or woman to want to look better (or feel better about their body) than have a relative increase in their intelligence.

I didn't say it to validate the survey... (relax)

cb361 said @ 10:40pm GMT on 15th Apr
What Women Really Think About Penis Size

when he whipped that thing out, all I could think was Childbirth In Reverse. Yikes. I think I said something like, “I’m afraid I’m not going to be able to help you with that. Have you called an agent?” Honestly, I wouldn’t even consider it. Poor guy.

zenviper said @ 11:45pm GMT on 15th Apr
anecdotal

Polyphemus said @ 12:08am GMT on 16th Apr
But not necessarily wrong.

zenviper said @ 1:00am GMT on 16th Apr
or necessarily right...

willrogers said @ 1:52am GMT on 16th Apr
How about statistical evidence that about 75% of women never achieve orgasm from vaginal intercourse alone.

That would seem to indicate achieving orgasm is less about the dimensions of the penises involved and more about stimulation of the clitoris.

zenviper said @ 2:02am GMT on 16th Apr
Maybe because they are getting off while in 69 and fixated on that giant one.. i dunno.. it still doesn't say that size isn't a big deal for women.

jackbnimbler said @ 3:14am GMT on 16th Apr
I've never met a woman who willing admitted that she was fond of very large penises. I have met a fair number who prefer a man who is competent in using it. I'm not going to claim there are not women out there who do really enjoy a large member, but I very much doubt it's the number that seems to be propagated by various forms of media.

theolypse said @ 3:23am GMT on 16th Apr
Oh, they exist. I've never met one where it wasn't coextant with moderate or stronger masochism.

willrogers said @ 5:37am GMT on 16th Apr
When I was a kid, I got ahold of a copy of "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid to Ask)" and always thought that it had a pretty good interesting and funny take on penis size.

The author recounts the possibly apocryphal story of Abe Lincoln, where someone facetiously asked Lincoln "How long should a person's legs be?" an obvious attempt to poke fun at the 16th president's tall stature. Lincoln supposedly replied with the clever, "Long enough to reach the ground." The author takes this amusing anecdote and applies it to penis size, i.e. the question "How long should a penis be?" is answered by the quip, "Long enough to reach the vagina."

cb361 said @ 7:31am GMT on 16th Apr
There was a copy of that in my parent's bookshelf, which was very instructive to my twelve-year-old self. It was socially decades out of date, of course. Not that that's necessarily bad because there are still people around who have social attitudes to sex that old at least.

cb361 said @ 8:45am GMT on 16th Apr
To be honest, you seem a bit more fixated on this than most women probably are. I think that getting to the stage with a woman where penises become relevant is the difficult part. Or at least that's how I've always found it. But once you have reached that stage, penis size itself (whether too much or too little) is very very unlikely to be a problem.

zenviper said @ 12:42pm GMT on 16th Apr
That's because my original comment was about me feeling good, not women.

theolypse said @ 3:22am GMT on 16th Apr
I strongly recommend Richters, J., de Visser, R., Rissel, C., & Smith, A. (2006). Sexual Practices at Last Heterosexual Encounter and Occurrence of Orgasm in a National Survey. The Journal of Sex Research, 43(3), 217-226.

azazel said @ 10:52am GMT on 16th Apr [Score:1 Insightful]
"5. Penises provide far fewer orgasms than tongues do."
My first thought was "Maybe she should try 6". Dohoho.

snowfox said @ 5:20am GMT on 17th Apr
I found it aligned pretty well with my views.

thepublicone said @ 11:11pm GMT on 15th Apr
Really?

With a 180 IQ you could invent, as Joe Rogan calls them, "Big Dick Pills", then you'd have both a 180 IQ and a 10" dick.

With a 10" dick, all you get is your pick of trailer park trash.

zenviper said @ 11:24pm GMT on 15th Apr
but it would be fun. maybe if I were smarter id get it.. but my thinking is... if a 7" dick feels good, a 14" would feel twice as good! I just assumed if you went too big (ie: 14") then you would never find a woman to accommodate.

zenviper said @ 11:24pm GMT on 15th Apr
also if a 180IQ could invent big dick pills, we would have them by now.

chold_numa said @ 11:54pm GMT on 15th Apr
Dumber people are happier people. There was a study done (can'tbe bothered looking it up) indicating this. So yeah, Mr 10" is probably happier than Mr 180IQ who might starve himself to death by eating only on days of the month that are prime numbers.

theolypse said @ 3:24am GMT on 16th Apr
...what?

chold_numa said @ 8:07am GMT on 16th Apr
Obscure portmanteau of a reference to Kurt Godel and other mathematicians. Pay it no mind.

The take away is that being smarter in the conventional sense probably has a negative correlation with happiness. On the other hand, intelligence generally has a positive correlation with wealth when measured against others of the same demographic (again, another study I can't be bothered looking up, although iirc, less credible for some reason).

bbqkink said @ 6:29pm GMT on 15th Apr

b said @ 6:39pm GMT on 15th Apr
So Romney thinks it's a good idea for people to have their children raised by daycares and nannies instead of biological parents?

bbqkink said @ 7:00pm GMT on 15th Apr
Only if you are poor.

arrowhen said @ 8:08pm GMT on 15th Apr
Serves them right for not being smart enough to marry rich dudes who could afford to keep them as pets/status symbols. Stupid poors.

arrowhen said @ 7:38pm GMT on 15th Apr
I think difficult, important jobs are best done by trained experts. Most people can't program their own computers, so they pay professionals to do it for them. Why then do we assume that anyone who manages to successfully procreate is qualified to program a whole PERSON?

bbqkink said @ 8:10pm GMT on 15th Apr
Have you ever seen day care centers in poor neighborhoods?

arrowhen said @ 8:15pm GMT on 15th Apr
Have you seen what passes for parenting skills in poor neighborhoods? Or rich ones, for that matter?

Anyway I said I thought children SHOULD be raised by trained experts, not that daycares ARE trained experts.

bbqkink said @ 8:36pm GMT on 15th Apr
Yea I have, living in a poor neighborhood I see kids that both have good and bad parents pretty much like their rich counterparts.
I believe that children should be raised by people who love and care about them. That pretty much excludes most trained experts.

Now should parents be assisted by trained experts, yes, but that is not going to happen in a state aid daycare.

arrowhen said @ 12:05am GMT on 16th Apr
If love and care are enough to turn the horrible little feral monsters we all start out as into intelligent, responsible adults, how do you explain the vast number of stupid, selfish assholes in the world? Did ALL of them have parents that didn't love and care for them?

And don't knock government agencies. Sure, most of the time they're half-assed, inefficient, ineffective wastes of time and money, but when it really sets its mind to a task -- from building pyramids to killing Jews, traveling to the moon to putting young black men in jail -- government is damn good at Getting Shit Done.

The only hard part is getting them to do the RIGHT shit.

bbqkink said @ 1:03am GMT on 16th Apr [Score:-1 Overrated]
Let me guess..You're a Teacher??

arrowhen said @ 1:50am GMT on 16th Apr
I thought I wanted to be a teacher when I was younger. Specifically a high school science teacher; every science teacher I had in high school were not only lousy teachers but seemed to have zero actual interest in science, so I figured that was the field where I could do the most good.

Then I remembered I can't stand children, pointless rules, or having to explain things to people.

bbqkink said @ 2:25am GMT on 16th Apr
With the "the horrible little feral monsters we all start out as" line I would have bet teacher. I used to love to be around kids now that I am older (about 60) 5 min.s tops and I want to lock them in a closet.

arrowhen said @ 2:49am GMT on 16th Apr
I didn't like kids even when I was one.

theolypse said @ 3:25am GMT on 16th Apr
Classy.

ComposerNate said @ 6:41pm GMT on 15th Apr [Score:1 Funny]

chold_numa said @ 10:14pm GMT on 15th Apr
THAT is a piece of advertising for Shelleys No More Gaps (gap filler) trying to go viral. Not sure if you have it overseas, but it's well known here in Australia.

Not to say it's a bad product or that the ad isn't funny, but unless they're paying me, I'm not going to be passing that on.

Ankylosaur said @ 1:03am GMT on 16th Apr
Just photoshop a competing brand's name on the caulk tube. Then pass it on smug in the knowledge you are screwing over a calculated viral ad campaign.

mechanical contrivance said @ 2:01am GMT on 16th Apr
I didn't even read the tube, so there.

chold_numa said @ 3:25am GMT on 16th Apr
Just as well. You'd find it was Selleys and not Shelleys.

Which was a clever ruse on my part. :P

sanepride said @ 6:44pm GMT on 15th Apr [Score:2 Underrated]
Hilary Rosen was right

hellboy said @ 8:23am GMT on 16th Apr
Yep.

I think Rosen is a stupid asshole (she used to run the RIAA). But in this case she merely misspoke; rather than disingenuously piling on her for saying something offensive when she pretty clearly meant something different, I would have liked to hear at least one public figure on the left say, "Obviously Ms. Rosen misspoke, she's a working mother herself so she should be well aware of how much effort that entails. What I believe she meant to say was that Ann Romney has never had to worry about a paycheck in her entire life, and therefore doesn't know the first damn thing about the economic challenges most American women face." That would have been much better than the typical "here let me shoot myself for you" response from the Democrats.

bbqkink said @ 7:57pm GMT on 15th Apr

With a gardener, maids, nannies,and a personal chef.

bbqkink said @ 8:05pm GMT on 15th Apr [Score:2]
And there is this...

The Romney family talking about their “not easy years,” having “no income,” “living on the edge” as “struggling students,” was that the couple had had to face college with only sale of stock to sustain them. By Ann’s own account, the stock amounted to “a few thousand” dollars when bought, but it had gone up by a factor of sixteen. So let’s conservatively say that they got through five years as students—neither one of them working—only by “chipping away at” assets of $60,000 in 1969 dollars (about $377,000 today).

Imagine actually having to sell your stocks to pay for college.. OHH the horror

http://www.samefacts.com/2012/01/income-distribution/mitt-romney-and-ann-the-students-struggling-so-much-that-they-had-to-sell-stock/

MachPi said @ 8:56pm GMT on 15th Apr
Wow, I had no idea. Imagine pulling yourself up by your ermine stole like that!

(fyi, a 3 minute googling of 'rich man's bootstraps' yields no synonym even remotely funny)

bbqkink said @ 9:33pm GMT on 15th Apr
Obama camp battles Romney over female job loss criticism

Gillespie echoed the candidate's argument that Romney's economic proposals would help women, saying, "we have ... the highest poverty rate for women in 17 years."

This is like the kid that killed both of his parents and then asked the judge to be lenient because he was an orphan. Do they think people will forget when and how this all started?

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/15/geithner-battles-romney-charges-over-female-job-loss-under-obama/#ixzz1s96w53Z8

bbqkink said @ 3:03am GMT on 16th Apr
Josiah Bartlet:

Adam said @ 4:05am GMT on 16th Apr [Score:2 Insightful]
I'm a stay at home parent, so I'm not going to pretend that this isn't hard work. But being a stay-at-home dad, by itself, doesn't qualify me as an expert in anything but changing diapers and caring for a screaming infant. It certainly doesn't make me an expert on economics.

Barnabas_Truman said @ 4:43am GMT on 16th Apr
My dad was a stay-at-home parent throughout my infancy, and he's an expert in anthropology of the American southwest. However, these two facts are not causally related.

pleaides said @ 8:30am GMT on 16th Apr
I'll wager you can do a great rain dance.

bbqkink said @ 7:46pm GMT on 16th Apr
Ann Romney: Hilary Rosen Controversy Was 'My Early Birthday Present'

"It was my early birthday present for someone to be critical of me as a mother, and that was really a defining moment, and I loved it," Romney said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/16/ann-romney-hilary-rosen_n_1427419.html