Monday, 12 March 2012

Coke and Pepsi change recipe to avoid cancer warning

quote [ Coke and Pepsi change the way they make their drinks to avoid a cancer warning label in compliance with Californian law ]

You know how some foods turn brown when you cook them? That can cause cancer now, but only in California.

Also of interest:

Some company used homeless people as mobile wifi hotspots at SXSW.

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2012/03/the-damning-backstory-behind-homeless-hotspots-at-sxswi/
[by mechanical contrivance@11:03pmGMT] [+7 Interesting]

Comments

blacksun said @ 11:20pm GMT on 12th Mar
My guess is that in 100 years, thousands of common foods and household items will have been identified as cancer causing.
graham said @ 12:05am GMT on 13th Mar
2012 IS THIS YEAR!!!
Barnabas_Truman said @ 2:35am GMT on 13th Mar
It's been 100 years since Oreos were invented.

It's been 92 years since America passed the 19th Amendment.

That means for eight years American women were able to eat Oreos but not able to vote.
theolypse said @ 3:58am GMT on 13th Mar
To be fair, wouldn't you rather eat Oreo's?
Supreme_Coconut said @ 5:48am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
Yes. Absolutely.
I would gladly sit at home on the first Tuesday of November every other year and just inhale Oreo's until my arteries wept cream filling.
lilmookieesquire said @ 5:51am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
No taxation without Oreo-ntation!
moriati said @ 7:56am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
Hey - Number of nuclear bombs used in war before universal women's suffrage: 0. Number of nuclear bombs used in war after universal women's suffrage: 2. Just saying.
Barnabas_Truman said @ 8:46am GMT on 13th Mar
I'm not trying to imply anything here, but you can't ignore that the plane that dropped the first nuclear bomb was named after a woman.

...or that the bomb was thought up by men, designed by men, built by men, and dropped by men from a plane flown by men under orders from men originally issued by men...
13ullet said @ 5:42pm GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
...but the men originally came from a woman.
4estgraham said @ 2:14pm GMT on 14th Mar
You also can't ignor the fact that a group of women probably built the aricraft that dropped the first nuclear bomb. Thanks Rosie...
Bodnoirbabe said @ 11:40am GMT on 13th Mar
Just want you to know I put this as my facebook status. It made me laugh that much.
sacrelicious said @ 12:14am GMT on 13th Mar
Anorexics will be the new vegans!
arrowhen said @ 1:21am GMT on 13th Mar
My guess is that right now thousands of common foods and household items have been identified as cancer causing.

Everything causes cancer, and the only escape is to die of something else first.
KingPellinore said @ 3:20am GMT on 13th Mar
I believe we're rapidly approaching the "cancer singularity", wherein the list of things that cause cancer is longer than the list of things that don't cause cancer.
Barnabas_Truman said @ 5:45am GMT on 13th Mar
No, the "cancer singularity" would begin when things that cause cancer become intelligent enough to start discovering more things that cause cancer. Exponential cancercancer.
Omegaphobic said @ 9:22am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Original]
We're going to cure cancer... by giving it cancer.
DeadCarbonCopy said @ 6:55pm GMT on 13th Mar
O2 oxidizes free radicals which cause DNA damage and therefor, cancer. Sugar is a reducing agent that can cause DNA damage through reduction. Your body relies on both Glucose and oxygen to survive, so simply surviving long enough will result in getting cancer.
rndmnmbr said @ 6:10pm GMT on 15th Mar
People die, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
Menchi said @ 10:36pm GMT on 14th Mar
No, in 100 years playing the guitar will be illegal.
Paradise Lost said @ 11:21pm GMT on 12th Mar
Relevant: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17619857

There's a huge advantage in doing animal research for studying the affects of on health. It's also kinda shady when you automatically assume (not done in study) that a cancer-causing agent in some group of animals will cause cancer in some group of humans.
nomadica said @ 11:28pm GMT on 12th Mar
apparently according to the state of california..... wood causes cancer...
sacrelicious said @ 12:14am GMT on 13th Mar
what *doesn't* cause cancer?
thorfinn said @ 12:17am GMT on 13th Mar
the ahhh....ummmm.....I got nothing
NNC spokesperson said @ 12:19am GMT on 13th Mar
this message has been brought to you by the National Nothing Council, who reminds you: Nothing doesn't cause cancer!
lilmookieesquire said @ 12:33am GMT on 13th Mar
That's why people in California don't eat wood.
backSLIDER said @ 12:59am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
And that is why I married a new yorker!
lilmookieesquire said @ 1:14am GMT on 13th Mar
HEYOOOOOOOO
sherlock said @ 1:35am GMT on 13th Mar
So you're saying we should start referring to branches as "cancer sticks"? And morning wood as "cancer dicks"?
snowfox said @ 4:41am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 WTF]
Sucking dick increases the odds of throat cancer.
Chop-Logik said @ 6:00am GMT on 13th Mar
Pshh. My dick's full of radiation & mastectomy coupons!
sacrelicious said @ 7:31am GMT on 13th Mar
anal sex causes prostate cancer.

not having anal sex ALSO causes prostate cancer.

that is because an anus is a hole, and a hole is something.

Nothing: it doesn't cause cancer!
mrklipp said @ 9:20am GMT on 13th Mar
Yes, in the sense that breathing increases the odds of lung cancer.
snowfox said @ 11:30pm GMT on 13th Mar
Suck it.
mechanical contrivance said @ 12:05am GMT on 14th Mar
I clicked the link, but all I read was that fruit bats have oral sex.
snowfox said @ 11:03pm GMT on 14th Mar
You read the wrong part. What you should have read was above the section clearly titled "Other Species."

Here is the link referred to by wiki's citation.
mechanical contrivance said @ 3:54am GMT on 15th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
No, no. I saw that section. I just didn't read it because fruit bats have oral sex.
happiest_sadist said @ 3:10pm GMT on 14th Mar
I don't have HPV. Let's practice safe sucks!
sanepride said @ 11:46pm GMT on 12th Mar
Lucky for them they don't have to warn people about all the sugar in those drinks. No doubt it has killed and sickened far more people than trace amounts of 4-methylimidazole.
foobar said @ 12:16am GMT on 13th Mar
They do. Every food product has a standardized nutrition information box.

You can call them out for screwing with the "serving size" number, but that's about it.
sherlock said @ 1:37am GMT on 13th Mar
1 can = 1 serving. What's wrong with that?

Actually after ceasing to drink soda I find it very difficult to drink 1 full serving.
psychotim said @ 11:50pm GMT on 13th Mar
Quite often, in Canada at least, they provide health information for a given portion of food which does not match with the total food in the can/package, despite being for food obviously meant to be consumed entirely in one serving. To be extra scummy, sometimes it isn't even a easily divisible ratio.
sanepride said @ 1:40am GMT on 13th Mar
The nutrition information box is not the same as a warning, except for the very few who actually understands what it means.
sanepride said @ 11:48pm GMT on 12th Mar
Just heard the story about the SXSW homeless hotspots here.
Interesting to hear one of the guys responsible trying to defend it.
endopol said @ 1:13am GMT on 13th Mar
If the only offensive aspect of this nonprofit business is that it publicly identifies its employees as homeless, then I'd still support it.
Naruki said @ 1:26am GMT on 13th Mar
Maybe the liberals should try getting them to run for office. That would seriously fuck with the right wing lunatics who try to publish the home addresses of their enemies.
mechanical contrivance said @ 1:51am GMT on 13th Mar
Crazy Eyes Eddie:
53rd and 3rd
Standing on the street
sanepride said @ 1:43am GMT on 13th Mar
Actually I kind of like the whole idea. The host of 'Marketplace' gave him a really hard time about it, perhaps unfairly.
sacrelicious said @ 12:13am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:3 Informative]
sherlock said @ 1:27am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Funny]
As I like to say: you're eating food? That's what they make shit from!
sacrelicious said @ 1:28am GMT on 13th Mar
I am so stealing that.
Anti-fuites said @ 3:32am GMT on 13th Mar
rndmnmbr said @ 4:00am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Informative]
Eh, you just get something that tastes like ass. Been down that road before.
buckaroo50 said @ 7:02pm GMT on 13th Mar
Dangerous reaction? Is that why you never see Coke & Pepsi at the same soda fountain - for safety?
scojam said @ 3:50am GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Informative]
They also put a carmel coloring in beer.

What I like about Coke and Pepsi and all those carbonated soft drinks is that the price hasn't changed much, at least not in comparison to other products in the past 57 years.

In 1955 I was delivering newspapers to home subscribers. During my delivery time I would stop and have a Coke.

A 6 OZ bottle cost a dime with a $0.02 refund on the bottle. I think at that time the cost included a penny if the bottle was chilled.

Last week I bought a 32 can case of coke at Costco for$8. or $0.25 per 10 OZ can (about .025 per OZ), no deposit.

In 1955 the 6 OZ bottle cost $0.0167 per OZ after the refund.

Plain white bread was .19 per loaf. The same loaf today is over $2.

In 1966 I bought a Gibson J 45. The same store has a new one I tried today. In the past 46 years the price of the J 45 hasn't changed at all. It's still 24 easy payments.
sanepride said @ 3:56am GMT on 13th Mar
The reason the prices for sweet sodey-pop haven't changed much is because the primary ingredient (after water) is sugar...now in the form of high-fructose corn syrup which is not only extremely cheap to manufacture in industrial quantities but is subsidized by the government.

And they don't put caramel coloring in the beer that I drink.
rndmnmbr said @ 4:03am GMT on 13th Mar
I like that I can still buy a loaf of bread for $0.89 here in the asshole of Texas. Of course, it's horribly corrupted with additives - and how in the fuck you add additives to bread, I'll never figure out - and nothing compared to homemade, but it works in a pinch.
willrogers said @ 4:33am GMT on 13th Mar
Those "additives" are probably preservatives that allow the bread to remain unspoiled for longer than homemade bread.

I'm not sure if there are any negative health consequences from these preservatives, but they certainly do have their place, especially in countries with food insecurity and without reliable electricity appliances (e.g. refrigerators, freezers, etc.).
rndmnmbr said @ 8:04am GMT on 13th Mar
I'm actually completely positive the only additive is HFCS. I buy the bread from a store I used to work in, so I know it's rotation schedule, and has about half the shelf life of any other bread. Soft, sticky, gummy shitty cheap bread, quite possibly made with illegal immigrant child slavery labor. But hey, $0.89 a loaf, and there couldn't be anything in it more unhealthy that some other things I eat on a regular basis.
foobar said @ 6:55pm GMT on 13th Mar
If it's still fresh the day after it was made, they're doing something unnatural to it.
rndmnmbr said @ 6:16pm GMT on 15th Mar
Sliced sandwich bread in sealed bags has a reasonable shelf life of five days, and a reasonable "still good enough to eat" life of about two weeks. Artisinal bread goes stale within the day, but that's because it's typically left unwrapped or only wrapped in paper. Breadboxes and bread bags are designed to maintain a humid atmosphere to keep it fresh longer. Ultimately, it's all about proper storage.
sherlock said @ 4:50am GMT on 13th Mar
Wait, wait, hold on.

"In 1955 I was delivering newspapers to home subscribers"

Okay, assuming you were at least 8 years old to make those deliveries, that pegs you at at least 65 years old. Anyway, I'd +1 old you if I could.
scojam said @ 9:39am GMT on 13th Mar
Born in 1945, I'm 67. For carmel colouring in beer see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caramel_color
sherlock said @ 9:28pm GMT on 13th Mar [Score:1 Insightful]
So what you're saying is that your birth caused the Nazis to surrender?
lilmookieesquire said @ 9:42pm GMT on 13th Mar
Don't they teach you kids ANYTHING in history class anymore?
mrcucumber said @ 4:50am GMT on 14th Mar
I'm so bored to tears with this shit I want to jump off a bridge.
happiest_sadist said @ 3:04pm GMT on 14th Mar [Score:1 Interesting]
Aw, that's your answer to everything.
rndmnmbr said @ 6:17pm GMT on 15th Mar
So you are the Old Man of Sensible Erection!
Barnabas_Truman said @ 12:09am GMT on 16th Mar
The Fifth Voyage of Sindbad, in which Sindbad encounters the Old Man of the SE.
sacrelicious said @ 4:25am GMT on 16th Mar
comparing bulk products to single units is a false comparison. how much per unit would a 32 bottle case from a wholesaler cost in 1955? probably a hell of alot less ten cents an 8oz bottle.
edga alunpo said @ 9:03am GMT on 13th Mar
You don't need to eat to have cancer. According to publications I've read, every 17 millionth cell our body produces is cancerous.

But all is not lost.... our immune system takes care of them and bombards them with T cells and such.... a bit like overkill, but it keeps us alive.

I think they should be testing foods for the effects they have on our immune system, not whether they increase cancer cell production.
scojam said @ 9:46am GMT on 13th Mar
I listened to an interview with a researcher whose focus was on childhood immune system issues, whereby antibodies attack healthy organs in children, not unlike Lupis.

He commented that they are beginning to look the ingrained tendency to over protect children from germs, bacteria, sundry illnesses and infections. Their thoughts are that by eliminating as much of this stuff as possible the immune system is deprived of the opportunity to learn what is child and what is not.

Ultimately the system attacks the child for want of something to go after, they think.
azazel said @ 9:51am GMT on 13th Mar
That looks like the Golden Horde crest.

Ok, that's it. No Crusader Kings 2 for a week.
burning1 said @ 6:15am GMT on 18th Mar
Dude... Do you live in CA? Everything here has cancer warnings. I shit you not, Coffee has a cancer warning, due to the fact that it's roasted.

Someone with good intentions had the bad idea of requiring a label on everything that could potentially cause cancer. The result (hyperbole) is that your morning Late gets the same cancer warning that a can of Benzine has.

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