Sensible Erection | Senator questions benefits to ‘adult baby’

Tuesday, 31 May 2011

Senator questions benefits to ‘adult baby’

quote [ Senator has asked the Social Security Administration to investigate how people who live their lives role-playing as “adult babies” are able to get taxpayer-funded disability payments — after one of them was featured on a recent reality TV episode wearing diapers, feeding from a bottle and using an adult-sized crib he built. ]

Link to his website in extended. Marked NSFW due to the fact that if you google image search "Adult Baby" you'll need eye bleach.

http://www.bedwettingabdl.com/

[politics] [by Transfer@4:01amGMT] [+9 WTF]

Comments

afrasr said @ 4:07am GMT on 31st May
I made the mistake of starting this thread in reddit...

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/hnifr/hey_reddit_what_is_the_most_messed_up_thing/

Oh god..... my mind... its broken

Time for minecraft

afrasr said @ 4:08am GMT on 31st May
Oh, and fuck everything about adult babies...

fat lazy fucks.

Transfer said @ 4:32am GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Funny]
Wow. I'm reading through your reddit thread. And I fucking hate the format of that site. Why is it so popular?

gunthar said @ 4:39am GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Funny]
cuz libertarian pot-heads with it/engineering backgrounds need their own sensibleerection

Transfer said @ 5:37am GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Funny]
afrasr should try to do that thread on here and see how it compares.

mrcucumber said @ 12:56pm GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Funny]
I was just gonna say some of that was funny...

bbqkink said @ 5:47am GMT on 31st May
You forgot pedophiles...clicking on NSFW links on the front pages makes me want to erase all evidence so when the police come I don't get arrested.

bbqkink said @ 6:42am GMT on 31st May
a swf... sorta example.
http://i.imgur.com/O5hHp.jpg

gunthar said @ 6:51am GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Underrated]
i like how you showed me something that you all but denounced.

i also like that i couldn't help but click on the link anyway.

bbqkink said @ 11:17pm GMT on 31st May
No where near the most egregious example. Just made the point these are under age girls in sexual situations. I guess it is no worse than the Facebook story where the have contact info and make it easier to the predators.
I know their demographic is young and don't really have a problem with it if it is the girls themselves posting the pics. It's not the smartest thing in the cyber world but...I doubt that is the case most of the time.

assbastard said @ 9:26am GMT on 31st May
Dammit, sensible facial, I did not want to see that picture*.

*I totally did want to see that picture.**

**Oh god, I need to fuck something soon or else i'm going to explode.***

***in my pants.

assbastard said @ 9:29am GMT on 31st May
****That sounded bad. I meant that it's been so long since i've fucked anything that I'm going to explode from being backed up, not that the jailbait was going to make my penis asplode from happy.*****

*****I mean, they're pretty goddamn hot, but in a total "Hi, I'm Chris Hansen" kind of way, which is a total turnoff to me.******

******Chris Hansen coming out into a room is a turnoff.*******

*******Unless Chris Hansen is a completely different person that is also a totally hot chick.

David Bowman said @ 4:24am GMT on 1st Jun
My God. It's full of stars!

assbastard said @ 2:02pm GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Hot Pr0n]
Nevermind, folks. Crisis averted.

devilsad said @ 8:50pm GMT on 31st May
If that's SWF then where the FUCK do you work because I want a job there. Hell I'll do the first 6 months for free and make all the coffee and mop under the desks. Hot-Giggity-DAMN.

theolypse said @ 1:49am GMT on 1st Jun [Score:-1 Troll]
Lots of videos are streamed in flash. That doesn't make them safe for work. Don't be ridiculous.

devilsad said @ 3:51pm GMT on 1st Jun
Haha, good catch. Guess I'm dylxesic too.

Nihil said @ 2:33pm GMT on 31st May
You do realise that a significant percentage of Reddit's userbase is under 20, right?

strangeffect said @ 2:38pm GMT on 31st May [Score:2 Funny]
That seems unlikely. Many of the topics are of an adult nature, and therefore would not be viewed by anybody under 18.

mrcucumber said @ 8:02pm GMT on 31st May
And some of the humor is to mature for anyone under 20

Dioxin said @ 6:52am GMT on 31st May
I liked the one where the Australian guy tried to charm the cute South African girl he just met by telling her about the Tasmanian genocide for no apparent reason.

f00m@nB@r said @ 7:55am GMT on 31st May
This one time, at band camp…

punchopenpunchclose said @ 7:59pm GMT on 31st May
This man(?) needs to be punched.

Urzazero said @ 11:36pm GMT on 31st May
I can't "get" minecraft. I can't afford to buy it (yeah yeah I know, it's not much) and the free version is... well, lacking.
Ace of Spades is pretty decent, however, cause you can kill griefers :-p

bbqkink said @ 4:19am GMT on 31st May
This is sorta on topic if crazy and politics is the topic.

Even the clan hates these SOBs

Washington (CNN) -- Protesting members of the controversial Westboro Baptist Church were met with an unlikely group of counterprotesters Monday at Arlington Cemetery.

Hours before President Barack Obama led the nation's Memorial Day observances at the Tomb of the Unknowns, three members of the Westboro Baptist Church were challenged by others who disagreed with them -- including members claiming to be from the Ku Klux Klan.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/30/arlington.cemetery.protesters/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

I think this is... no, I know this is the first time in my life, I was on the same side as the KKK.....

cb361 said @ 4:53am GMT on 31st May
I glanced at Freep once, and chanced upon a thread about the WBC. After a lot of posts about how they wanted to visit all sorts of physical violence upon the church members if it wasn't for the liberal conspiracy to protect them, somebody mentioned that they had heard Phelps was a Democrat, and they all joined in a chorus of "I knew it!"

Don't be too quick to believe the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

strangeffect said @ 2:39pm GMT on 31st May
>>>I glanced at Freep once

How's therapy going?

cb361 said @ 5:43pm GMT on 31st May
I went there intending to troll them, but realised there was nothing I could say that would stand out against the background radiation of WTF.

devilsad said @ 8:47pm GMT on 31st May
The only way to troll freepers is to give an honest opinion that isn't batshit insane. The most inflammatory, logic-defying, straw-man-defeating statement that would get you banned from any other moderated site is just another normal comment there.

cb361 said @ 3:04am GMT on 1st Jun
Yeah, but you get instant permabanned for that kind of thing.

assbastard said @ 2:48pm GMT on 31st May
Speaking of which, I started off Memorial Day by finding that some fucker had put a National Alliance neo-nazi flyer on my door. I need to talk with neighbors to find out if they had put one on EVERYONE's door or just mine. I don't know which would be more unsettling.

Actually no, I do.

strangeffect said @ 3:11pm GMT on 31st May [Score:4 Funny]
That sounds like Onion fodder.

"Area Man Only Person In His Town On White Supremacist Mailing List"

satanspenis666 said @ 4:41am GMT on 31st May

notworking said @ 4:42am GMT on 31st May
“You wanna test how damn serious I am about leaving this world, screw with my check that pays for this apartment and food. Try it. See how serious I am. I don’t care,” the California man said. “I have no problem killing myself. Take away the last thing keeping me here, and see what happens. Next time you see me on the news, it will be me in a body bag.”

Ok, works for me.

atter_cob said @ 4:46am GMT on 31st May [Score:1]
“You wanna test how damn serious I am about leaving this world, screw with my check that pays for this apartment and food. Try it. See how serious I am. I don’t care,” the California man said. “I have no problem killing myself. Take away the last thing keeping me here, and see what happens. Next time you see me on the news, it will be me in a body bag.”

Ok, please go ahead. In fact, it would be nice if you just did it now and saved everyone the trouble of actually doing the paperwork to cut your benefits.

bbqkink said @ 5:13am GMT on 31st May
This is to me is just like several people I know of who are on SSI for being alcoholics, or the ones who are on it for depression. (That is what it is called around here "Crazy Money".

This is your local liberal pinko talking now, so this is not a tear down the New Deal conservative rhetoric. These people may have an illness (that should be treated and probably paid for by the state) but in no way should they be paid 6 to 8 hundred dollars a month for being a drunk or suicidal.

One the other side of the coin, had a friend who had a back injury. He had a doctors certification to the fact he couldn't stand for more than 10 min. at a time..He was denied. Was told there are a lot of jobs you can do sitting down.

foobar said @ 7:35am GMT on 31st May [Score:3 Underrated]
Maybe not, but we're talking about something on the order of a picosecond of Iraq/Afghanistan funding. If you claim to be a fiscal conservative and attack anything but that, you're lying.

happiest_sadist said @ 8:54am GMT on 31st May
And if the Washington Times refers to you as "the Senate's top waste watcher" for doing so then you know they are full of shit.

Navier-Strokes said @ 3:52pm GMT on 31st May
Accountants are often fiscally conservative,
and they need to worry about every line item.
Can't we cut back on both?

foobar said @ 4:08pm GMT on 31st May
Once we've cut the military back to the point that we need to think about whether they need $600/month, sure. We've got a good half a trillion per year to go before that's a factor.

Navier-Strokes said @ 10:05pm GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Insightful]
That's not really a valid argument against doing both,
so just do both.

foobar said @ 11:33pm GMT on 31st May
Of course not, seeing as I didn't make that argument at all. However, if we're not going to cut at least $500 billion/year from the military there's no cause to make any other cuts.

Navier-Strokes said @ 4:55am GMT on 5th Jun
That's also not a valid statement.
If you can stop wasteful spending somewhere, you should stop it.
Saying you won't do anything until X is done is a really bad business practice.

Naruki said @ 4:24pm GMT on 5th Jun
It could be valid. If a boat has a huge gaping hole in one side, and a tiny leak in the other, it is certainly valid to tell people not to worry about the leak until they've done something about the big hole.

And if the people are refusing to bother with the big hole, then you are going to need all hands to beat the snot out of them until they stop being stupid and endangering little shits.

Navier-Strokes said @ 5:01pm GMT on 5th Jun
Timescale?

Naruki said @ 10:04pm GMT on 5th Jun [Score:-1 Troll]
The ship is sinking.

Navier-Strokes said @ 10:15pm GMT on 5th Jun
Then in such a short time scale, you are correct.
The US economy will not be sinking in the next few hours,
so the timescale for your example versus the US economy is not comparable.

Naruki said @ 12:24am GMT on 6th Jun
Depends on how many hands you have to beat with. When your resources are limited and you will need every ounce of them to fix the hole - even if it won't sink the ship right away - then it could very well be more harmful to divert energy to the miniscule stuff.

Navier-Strokes said @ 2:30am GMT on 6th Jun
Yeah.... in the case of the US economy your comparison really doesn't hold.
Like, really doesn't hold. Not even close.
Not days, not weeks, not months, and in the worst likely scenarios, years.
Not a good argument.

Drop the program, and then focus on the bigger problems.
Any comparison is whiny at best.

bbqkink said @ 8:52pm GMT on 31st May
I'm not talking about the deficit. I am talking about waste fraud and abuse in the SSI portion of the social security budget.
It is miniscule when talking about the total budget.

devilsad said @ 8:29pm GMT on 1st Jun
You're forgetting the real reason people want to cut this guy's benefits isn't about the money the government could save, it's about smacking down a lazy, whining, spoiled little man who thinks he is entitled to indulge his fantasies on the back of other people's effort. Like a child having a tantrum in a store, people criticise the parent but what they really want to do is drop kick that little shit into next week.

mrcucumber said @ 8:33pm GMT on 1st Jun
There are a lot of republicans that feel the same way about people on unemployment insurance benefits, welfare, or even universal healthcare, as a concept.

bbqkink said @ 2:59am GMT on 2nd Jun
To me that is the middle of the road, real moderate politics.
The far right think any money given to the poor is a waste.
The left say the poor boy is obviously troubled and needs our help.
The true moderate or common persons response is, it is about time somebody weened this fat little bastard and got him out of that damn crib.

happiest_sadist said @ 9:02am GMT on 2nd Jun
Who, then is "somebody"?
If you are going to take a political position (and I don't mean 'you' as in 'bbqkink' I mean 'you' as in everyone) then you should have an answer as to just who should take responsibility for doing such things.
Personally, I don't give a shit if this idiot ever gets out of his crib. While he's there, he's not competing with me for jobs.
I don't know that I'm particularly happy with him living on SSI. If he's capable of working, then well and good, If he's willing to work, then let's put him to work. If he's not willing to work, then that (as far as I'm concerned) is a mental illness of itself.

Mozart said @ 3:14am GMT on 2nd Jun
From teh Wiki:

Iraq War appropriations

On May 24, 2007, the US Senate voted 80–14 to fund the war in Iraq. Coburn voted nay.[20] On October 1, 2007, the Senate voted 92–3 to fund the war in Iraq. Coburn voted nay.[21] In February 2008, Coburn said, "I will tell you personally that I think it was probably a mistake going to Iraq."[22]

assbastard said @ 8:50am GMT on 31st May [Score:2 Insightful]
That is what it is called around here "Crazy Money".

but in no way should they be paid 6 to 8 hundred dollars a month for being ... suicidal

Fuck you very much.

bbqkink said @ 8:46pm GMT on 31st May
I'm not talking about truly mentally ill people. I'm talking about people who are gaming the system. And by the way I didn't name it "crazy money" that is what it is called on the street by people who are more than aware that people play crazy to get a check.
I am or I was a mental tech and have worked for the state and there are a lot of people who desperately need the help they are getting but to get all upset because there are some people who know that it is easier to fake depression and rack up a few suicidal threats to back it up than look for a job, is not very realistic.

RhesusMonkey said @ 12:04pm GMT on 31st May
It is a complicated topic - how do you determine the % of people who are committing fraud versus those that the program actually actively supports? And when you do determine the % fraud, once you total how much has been taken compared to overall government spending, does it even matter?

Depression can be very hard to understand for someone who does not have it and who has not lived through it / with someone who has lived through it. However, in all cases the assumption should be that the person receiving benefits should be "getting better", and that to determine this they should be accountable for meeting specific milestones or goals, otherwise funding is cut off.

In Ontario, one of the (very few) positive things to come out of our last Conservative government was "Work-fare" versus "Welfare", that meaning you needed to demonstrate you were actively seeking employment to receive unemployment benefits.

I personally know people who have defrauded the Ontario government for child support benefits and income taxes - people (a couple) who have several children together, but they were not married and did not claim taxes as if they were a couple (since you get more back as an independent); the mother with four dependants then also received support payments since she was a "single mom". Mind you, she had at least one of the kids because she was a) arrested for wire fraud / passing bad cheques and going to jail and b) was "told" that she could stay out of prison if she were pregnant - didn't work so well for her there. The couple eventually got married, but there was much speculation they only did it because they wanted to receive cash (typical of asian weddings to give money in envelopes vs physical items).

For people like that I'd say: Fuck these guys, toss them in jail and give their kids to social services. But for another friend of mine, who is a single mother with one dependant that has a full-time job and makes a pretty good salary, I would say those benefits are still necessary for her to be able to afford day-care to be able to attend said full-time job. There has to be balance to these services, and I'm sure we would all want Fraud to be weeded out, but the costs of policing it are likely on the same order as, if not more than, the costs lost to Fraud - when it becomes economical for the government to police itself here, they will.

chold_numa said @ 1:24pm GMT on 31st May
You'll never get rid of social security fraud. As long as there are big complex systems that hand out money with insufficient regulation/enforcement/assessment etc, there'll be someone trying to defraud it. Much like people cheating on taxes, companies cheating on taxes and politicians standing for election.

Putting kids in foster care is a bit callous unless harm has been proven. Kids are *probably* better off with their parents than with the foster care system (which is also probably rife with problems given that there isn't enough money to run assessments/checkups - in Australia at least, ymmv).

It'd be best for people receiving social security payments not to have children at all. Otherwise you'll end up with generations of people used to receiving these payments. Public education (again, underfunded) is probably the best way out of this. Give the kids at least a chance to move on in society.

As for the cheats, I say give them forced community service. If they have jobs and are caught receiving payments they're not entitled to, garnish their salaries until the amount they've defrauded has been paid back. Hell, I say the government should start handing out a reward for information leading to the conviction of someone defrauding the system.

swiggy said @ 11:26pm GMT on 31st May
Did anyone else IMMEDIATELY think of how "crazy taxi" would've played if the drivers were clinically depressed?

Urzazero said @ 11:34pm GMT on 31st May
Yeah... I might actually want to play it then.

swiggy said @ 1:10am GMT on 1st Jun
the first level involves waking up from a 19 hour nap, laying in your bed curled into a ball, and calling out sick after you're three hours late for your shift.

then going back to sleep.

happiest_sadist said @ 9:04am GMT on 2nd Jun
*acheivement unlocked*

cb361 said @ 5:06am GMT on 31st May
Off topic : After more than a week driving through southwestern USA, seeing the incredible natural sights, I've fetched up in Las Vegas for a few days before flying back to the UK. There's a rock concert taking place outside our balcony, and I'm looking forward to finding out whether this place is really as evil as they say... :-)

But no gambling for me. Not a penny. I'm not even tempted. I have an incredibly deep and abiding trust in the quality of my luck. And it's all bad.

Bodnoirbabe said @ 7:37am GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Informative]
Go see "Bite" at the Stratosphere. It was surprisingly entertaining for a Vegas topless showgirl show. Seriously. It's a lot cheaper than a major show, the theater is more intimate and it still has acrobats, dancing, and an awesome soundtrack.

If you're looking to spend serious cash, go see The Beatles Love at the Mirage. It's one of the most magical moments of my life.

Go to the Wicked Spoon buffet at the brand new Cosmopolitan hotel. One of the best buffets I've ever been to! They had Red Velvet Pancakes. Seriously, go.

If you want some top notch food for top notch prices, go to the restaurant at the top the Stratosphere. Superb 5 star food there and the thing turns ever so slowly so that through one meal, you'll get a 360 degree view of Las Vegas. The Ribeye was to die for.

Go see the bodies exhibit at the Luxor if you haven't seen it already.

If you're looking for a fun restaurant, go to Dick's Last Resort at...I want to say next to Excalibur, but I'm not 100% on that. The food is fine, good, but not special. You go for the fun. They specialize in being rude, crass, assholes.

Hope you have fun! Let us know what you ended up doing.

mrcucumber said @ 2:38pm GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Informative]
If Cirque du Soleil's "O" is still showing, go see it.

foobar said @ 5:11am GMT on 31st May
Ewww, they're different from me!

micham18 said @ 5:50am GMT on 31st May
Atter cob, do you not understand sarcasm?

Transfer said @ 6:25am GMT on 31st May
foobar downmoded Atter cob, so he revenged modded.

To be fair notworking said almost the same thing and hasn't been downmoded by anyone yet.

notworking said @ 3:56am GMT on 2nd Jun
That's because I look so adorable in my nappy and bib.

wottan said @ 5:15am GMT on 31st May
Wanting to live your adult life as a baby doesn't sound too far off from some debilitating illness.

Barnabas_Truman said @ 5:16am GMT on 31st May
THINK OF THE CHILDREN

cb361 said @ 7:10am GMT on 31st May
THE LUCKY BASTARDS, KEEPING ALL THE DIAPERS AND MILK FOR THEMSELVES!

bbqkink said @ 5:28am GMT on 31st May
Oh and is anybody buying this load of crap besides the beltway media and Fox?

Palin Shakes Up Republican Presidential Field While Keeping Mum on Plans

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-31/palin-shakes-up-republican-presidential-field-while-keeping-mum-on-plans.html

That broad has no more intention of running for POTUS than I do.

She is not Running for president..She is trying to make some money! She is selling her movie and her books. The next person you hear that says anything about her running for president is either a lair or a fool. George will is one of the real brains behind the conservative movement and He says this out loud.

http://8rs.blogspot.com/2011/05/george-will-everyone-knows-sarah-palin.html#links

bbqkink said @ 5:33am GMT on 31st May

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

manbaby said @ 6:28am GMT on 31st May [Score:5 Funny]
Hm, this hit a bit close to home.

Transfer said @ 7:20am GMT on 31st May
So do a lot of people on here just filter out political posts?

This one was posted several hours ago, has 20+ comments and is standing at a +1 wtf.

The porn post above this was added within the last hour is at +6 hot porn and only has 3 comments.

What say you?

Transfer said @ 7:25am GMT on 31st May
Make that classy. Meh. I need to go to sleep.

Urzazero said @ 11:43pm GMT on 31st May
I like political posts, but I think people fap more to porn than they do politics - so they might be a little "shorthanded".

meatbeagle said @ 12:51pm GMT on 31st May
Relevant eye-bleach?
[IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/2801svn.jpg[/IMG]

meatbeagle said @ 12:52pm GMT on 31st May
meh.

theolypse said @ 1:51am GMT on 1st Jun
Lace mittens wtf

Dalej said @ 2:38pm GMT on 31st May
I could link it to decadent western socialist mentality,
but then I would get bashed by SE socialists or another flame would errupt, so I wont bother :)

strangeffect said @ 2:59pm GMT on 31st May
I overheard a guy saying you're a stupid asshole.

b said @ 4:24pm GMT on 31st May
"Mr. Thornton threatened to kill himself if his Social Security payments are taken away"

Yup, he's definitely a baby. This is what children do. And the only way to teach them is to call their bluff. I'd give this guy a couple months to get his shit together and then yank or severely reduce his payments.

foobar said @ 8:01pm GMT on 31st May
Please never volunteer for a suicide hotline.

Gamith_UK said @ 8:46pm GMT on 31st May
Why? it might cut down on repeat callers, and allow more new 'customers' to be talked to.

That would be win-win wouldn't it?

am I missing something?

titanic terribly full nappy

Garr123 said @ 11:43pm GMT on 31st May [Score:1 Insightful]
people who threaten to commit suicide if you take away something are very similar to melodramatic 15 year old girls.

foobar said @ 7:04am GMT on 1st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Who knew psychology was so simple? Surely the "get over it, pussy" school of thought will solve everything.

devilsad said @ 3:49pm GMT on 1st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Eventually.

Hemiii said @ 5:09am GMT on 1st Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
I got a night job at a local call center when I was I think 16, that must have been 1997/1998... I did alphanumeric paging, dispatch for several towing companies, secretarial for pediatricians and veterinarians.

The busiest lines were all for AA. People would call constantly to get updates on where meetings were held, and most were relatively nice about it. Just people needing help finding their meetings and hanging on.

But every night I would get one or two suicidals. Pretty heavy job for a stoned 16 year old. I kept trying to give them the impression that I was basically just a secretary, but they needed someone to talk to. I would give them the real AA hotline, and then a suicide hotline if they didn't understand. But MAN did I hear some crazy stories. About incest, murder, prison, hard drugs, pimping.

Hemiii said @ 5:11am GMT on 1st Jun
Oh, also fucked up was answering the Veterinarians' lines... women fucking SCREAMING at 1AM about how their dog got hit by a car, or their cat's eye is hanging out of a bloody socket. I never had to drink caffeine during my shift.

Nomojo said @ 4:55pm GMT on 31st May [Score:2 WTF]
Isn't that cute... BUT IT'S WRONG!

strangeffect said @ 11:04pm GMT on 31st May
very Dead-Alive

punchopenpunchclose said @ 8:07pm GMT on 31st May
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH97GbkagBw&NR=1

I forgot about DaveCat.

Urzazero said @ 11:32pm GMT on 31st May
I'm still applying for SSD myself. I've worked hard, but my fibro has cut short my ability to stay at my job. The drs say that 34 is a pretty young age to try for disability, and they're probably right, but I feel like an old man on a good day - a dead man on a bad one.
So on one hand - yay for some kind of social net and on the other - boo for people trying to take advantage of it.
Just my two cents.

azazel said @ 5:57am GMT on 2nd Jun
I'm unsure about SSD; the added speed doesn't seem to outweigh the failure rates of the drives.

Transfer said @ 12:05am GMT on 1st Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Here we go, Eye Bleach!