Sunday, 21 June 2009

SENSIBLE Prom

quote [ SE... get out your tux, dress or costumes and come to SE prom! (not to be confuzed w/ SE pr0n!) Edited my pic... sorry I was rushed earlier! ]

This idea came up in another post... thought it would be fun!
1. Pick your Prom outfit.... anything goes, besides especially "birthday suits"
2. Take pic/ find a recent pic and post for us to enjoy!
3. Have fun... this is just meant to be silly :P

BTW... I lied about no birthday suits...... NEKKID is ok if you're hawt :P

(I figured hoped ppl would post pr0n even if I "forbade" it... I even classified the entry as PRON in hopes that someone will get brave!)
[porn] [by Sarahbear@12:32amGMT] [+10]

Comments

Sarahbear said @ 12:32am GMT on 21st Jun
donnie said @ 12:49am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
allow me

Sarahbear said @ 5:29am GMT on 21st Jun
Thanks... i tried posting this earlier but I had this comedy club to go to, the link didnt work right and everyone wanted me to drive so I just had to run... I am posting pics of my new dress though :D
max_damage78 said @ 3:42pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
No body ever reads this shit.

MSPAINT ROCKS!
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 6:20pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 WTF]
Slim Jim man taking the same girl out to prom

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paint.net
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 6:42pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2 Funny]
but why is "Macho Man" Randy Savage taking her out also

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themanwhoeatslettus said @ 6:54pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
And i took her out also

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Sarahbear said @ 8:06pm GMT on 21st Jun
Ok, I admit it.... they all paid to pose with me. Their sisters and cousins were busy.
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 8:28pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2 Funny]
i took this girl out also

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themanwhoeatslettus said @ 1:05am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
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themanwhoeatslettus said @ 1:03am GMT on 23rd Jun
i am amazed you kept the same smile when steve bushemmi touched your boob.

donnie said @ 6:52pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 WTF]
If nobody else is going to...

sua_sponte said @ 7:53pm GMT on 21st Jun
Time to embrace the horror, boys
maryyugo said @ 8:34pm GMT on 21st Jun
hmm... must be a big hand... can't be a small... ah never mind.
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 9:40pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
this is the girl i went with
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Sarahbear said @ 1:44am GMT on 23rd Jun
Oh I was shocked at first, but once it set in...





look ma, I got a flickr
donnie said @ 3:21am GMT on 23rd Jun
Wait...that's not my bowling ball!
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 3:50am GMT on 23rd Jun
damnit donnie
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 3:48am GMT on 23rd Jun
i swear that he found a tumor with that look
foobar said @ 12:38am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2]
sua_sponte said @ 8:42pm GMT on 21st Jun
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mwoody said @ 12:38am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:4 Insightful]
I, uh, think you wandered onto the wrong site.
donnie said @ 12:51am GMT on 21st Jun
You haven't seen the pictures which are about to flood the space below.

Yes - FLOOD THE SPACE BELOW!
TheCooler said @ 4:11am GMT on 21st Jun
the se users decide what this site is for.
KropperPrime said @ 5:26am GMT on 21st Jun
Who decided that?
Ronin.ca said @ 8:18am GMT on 21st Jun
Everyone else.

We got together with out you.


KropperPrime said @ 8:25am GMT on 21st Jun
That's why I dislike democracy.
Ronin.ca said @ 8:40am GMT on 21st Jun
and everything else.
MrChaos said @ 9:47pm GMT on 21st Jun
Oh, I thought hate was commonplace here.
Sarahbear said @ 5:58am GMT on 21st Jun
You take things too seriously....

As much as the drawing circle jerk pulled out 10-15 penis pics, I figured mentioning costumes and then "forbidding" nudity would cause most people to "spitefully" post really strange or fucked up stuff.



zenviper said @ 12:39am GMT on 21st Jun
whats this here now????

Please fix, I want to believe.
Sarahbear said @ 5:31am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:5 Underrated]
AKAY sorry my pic didnt work earlier... bc I left everyone hangin I am posting 2 pics from this weekend :D


Sarahbear said @ 5:33am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:5]
ahh i have restless finger syndrome and can't type yrls correctly
ckfahrenheit said @ 6:47am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Sarahbear said @ 6:50am GMT on 21st Jun
UM.... does this make me a "good" terrorist?
ckfahrenheit said @ 6:55am GMT on 21st Jun
utah said @ 1:13pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 WTF]
I think that's Pictogram for "I'm as hard as a cat's head"
cb361 said @ 6:18pm GMT on 21st Jun
So come clean. How long have you had that image ready?
ckfahrenheit said @ 7:26am GMT on 22nd Jun
since her last post but got distracted
assbastard said @ 7:50am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Important note: There are naked pictures of her on the internet.
Ronin.ca said @ 8:24am GMT on 22nd Jun
Linky or it's lies.
assbastard said @ 8:32am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:2]
y'know, sometimeS it's best to go out lookinG for yourself.
monkeynuts said @ 1:29pm GMT on 22nd Jun
No Fucking way


YOu mean there are NAKED PEOPLE on the INTARWEB?!?!?
Sarahbear said @ 9:58pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I see what you did there
Fenny said @ 11:51am GMT on 23rd Jun
Sarahbear said @ 5:11am GMT on 24th Jun
OMG that is creepy as hell..... *hides in closet*
Transfer said @ 7:53pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
So theoretically speaking... if I was to search for Sarahbear on a certain website is this the name I should be looking under?
Sarahbear said @ 10:19pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Ha a URL is lost in a comment I have made somewhere on SE...

Also, not "Sarahbear" there
Transfer said @ 11:00pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Indeed... if only there was a way to find every comment you have made...
Transfer said @ 2:25am GMT on 24th Jun
There is a way, it's long and tedious and I still didn't find it. But I enjoyed the hunt. Expect a PM.
Hemiii said @ 9:23pm GMT on 26th Jun
Egads, I go off to vacation for awhile and now there's a new naked girl and half these posts are crashing my iPhone... Argh! Well, back to making a fire and swimming with sharks and other manly stuff.
lilmookieesquire said @ 8:16am GMT on 21st Jun
I have restless hand syndrome. I couldn't type for 5 minutes.
I... I think I might leave Japan.
Sarahbear said @ 8:18am GMT on 21st Jun
Overall i have restless body/mind syndrome.... when I'm manic. gahhhh.

My thoughts can be like a tornado and I'm lucky if i get to the center where there's some clarity.
lilmookieesquire said @ 10:03am GMT on 21st Jun
Well all hot girls are like that.
arrowhen said @ 1:26pm GMT on 22nd Jun
No. It took me something like 15 years to figure this out, but sane girls are infinitely more attractive than crazy ones.
Silent said @ 1:33pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Though I hate it, it seems every girl I've ever dated has been crazy, now it's not like I go up and say "Hey baby, you gonna try to kill me and/or yourself one day? Let's get down and dirty" and they all seemed normal enough to start with but in time it turned out each and every girl I have ever been close to has had some form of "crazy".
Maybe I should just stick to the hand but damn some of those girls were hot.
wyckedfae said @ 5:19pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Everyone has their own forms of crazy. Your problem is that you think you don't.
Silent said @ 10:08pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Oh, I know I am crazy.. it's more unique though, you just need to get to know me fae!
Sarahbear said @ 9:58pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Hmm so I no haz attractions cuz r crazies?
leswilkerson said @ 10:27pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
sua_sponte said @ 7:53pm GMT on 21st Jun
Restless fingers too? Be still my beating heart...
monkeynuts said @ 11:36pm GMT on 21st Jun
your legs have officially made you the 3rd most popular female on SE
(to me at least)



and yes I realize the "tee-hee the cripple has useless legs joke" is just around the corner...
Sarahbear said @ 10:01pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Leave it to a cripple to lust over legs.


And honestly if you didn't keep reminding me, I would have forgotten you were in a wheelchair by now.
monkeynuts said @ 12:36am GMT on 23rd Jun
If I don't remind you, assbastard and mcbitch will and I'd rather it be me.
They're terrible at making cripple jokes.
assbastard said @ 1:17am GMT on 23rd Jun
Meh, I've mellowed out a bit and stopped making cripple jokes. I've moved on to the slightly homoerotic come-ons, babe.
monkeynuts said @ 3:52am GMT on 23rd Jun
you are a right sexy bear of a man.
ObiJohnson said @ 11:46pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2 Hot Pr0n]
What? No +1 Hot Pr0n mod for comments?
ObiJohnson said @ 6:57am GMT on 22nd Jun
huh... guess i didn't see something
Fr3nZy said @ 5:01pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I get restless finger syndrome just looking!
3bop said @ 5:46am GMT on 21st Jun
Is this one shopped? :(
Sarahbear said @ 5:49am GMT on 21st Jun
Ya I have them in myspace bc its easier to post there and link, but theyre really pissy about too much cleavage and will delete your pix
donnie said @ 1:49pm GMT on 21st Jun
If you need better hosting, I'm sure alternatives would make themselves available...if you asked
badgerbaiter said @ 6:40pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:-1 WTF]
You can just send them directly to my email....
PM me.
Then send me loads of smutty pics for my own personal wank bank.

Please!
CapnSilver said @ 5:51am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
I think someone is covering a nip slip
zieko said @ 5:53am GMT on 21st Jun
totally shopped lol if you zoom in you can see the pixel work
Sarahbear said @ 6:03am GMT on 21st Jun
Yea its effin mspaint... I stole that dress from my sis. Think it was her homecoming outfit. Its actually COVERED in burs I got walking through the damn woods!

I almost put pics from last halloween where I'm a mermaid
lilmookieesquire said @ 8:19am GMT on 21st Jun
That's odd. Your dress on my screen is covered in something entirely else.
Sarahbear said @ 8:24am GMT on 21st Jun
PIX or it's not real!
lilmookieesquire said @ 10:09am GMT on 21st Jun
Oh you~
max_damage78 said @ 3:44pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Be very careful what you ask for, people on her WILL post that stuff.
afrasr said @ 5:52am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
I love you...

mrcucumber said @ 2:53pm GMT on 23rd Jun
a little too much hanging out for the internets?
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Sarahbear said @ 3:03pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
UM... we discussed this a few days ago. LAAATE!
mrcucumber said @ 9:37pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Sorry, so where can you point me to so I can read up?
Sarahbear said @ 10:21pm GMT on 23rd Jun
People commented on that very picture along the lines of "Ohh this looks shopped", and "When you look close you can see the pixels" in this very post. I also confirmed it.

mrcucumber said @ 10:37pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Right fucking above my post. Geez....sorry. Still though, you should post the original.....
max_damage78 said @ 11:37pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Full resolution preferably.

HEHEHEHEHE
Sarahbear said @ 5:23am GMT on 24th Jun [Score:5]
FIIINE, but just this once.

mrcucumber said @ 12:54pm GMT on 24th Jun
Excellent!!!
lilmookieesquire said @ 2:57am GMT on 5th Jul
You know...I just noticed that you also photoshopped your cleavage a little bit (colorwise). There was really no need to do that, it's quite a flattering picture as is. I liked the framing though.
Sarahbear said @ 6:16pm GMT on 5th Jul
NO, that photo has only been converted from raw to jpg.

The color variation is something most women get-- stretch marks. They occur when you grow too fast for your skin to keep up.
lilmookieesquire said @ 8:45pm GMT on 5th Jul
Ya I know, men get those too. Anyway, point still stands, lovely picture :)
Nice to see another past post lurker! BTW here are some of my old favorites

dead, but good: http://sensibleerection.com/entry.php/68992 Horse head
What do you look like 4: http://sensibleerection.com/entry.php/67321
SE offensive joke contest: http://sensibleerection.com/entry.php/20165
What do you look like 5: http://sensibleerection.com/entry.php/74783
Where do SE people live: http://sensibleerection.com/entry.php/74642
zsander said @ 12:46am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1]
Why yes, I AM sleeping with both of them...
f00m@nB@r said @ 2:26am GMT on 21st Jun
nice tits. who's the schmoe with the hat?
zsander said @ 3:25am GMT on 21st Jun
That would be me, F00m, and the two bracketing me would be my girlfriends. :]
sua_sponte said @ 4:06am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
...and the gate behind you the entrance to the retard home your two lovely caregivers brought you out of for Halloween dress-up day...
tiemy said @ 5:58am GMT on 21st Jun
brutal
zsander said @ 10:10am GMT on 21st Jun
Wow, asshole much?

Actually, no, it was near the entryway for the local club where we had a 'Red Carpet/Hollywood' theme night going a few months back, hence the zoot suit.

But if you can do better, by all means, please, show me your GQMF powers.

Prick.
lsdbeta said @ 10:39am GMT on 21st Jun
I think it's the fact that you're so serious about it all and we're just giving you shit because we get a rise out of you. Also some might take your attitude as showing off (with just a hint of jealousy as well I'm sure)

That and your lips look like you've sucked a lot of cock
ComposerNate said @ 11:24am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
I suspect his tie length is to compensate.
zsander said @ 12:45pm GMT on 21st Jun
No, I just don't know how to tie a four-in-hand.
ComposerNate said @ 1:48pm GMT on 21st Jun
But you know how to hold four inches in your hand?


I kid, of course. I'm sure your schlong is delightful.
zsander said @ 6:09pm GMT on 21st Jun
OSNAP!
nik said @ 7:29pm GMT on 21st Jun
I hate when my cock snaps off like that.
zsander said @ 7:37pm GMT on 21st Jun
The Snap-On Tool company's name can be highly misleading...
zsander said @ 12:47pm GMT on 21st Jun
Whoo, answering a question counts as showing off. Damn, I guess you got me there.

And for the record, I haven't sucked a lot of cock...

I've sucked a fucking phenomenally large lot of cock; next time you'll have to try to insult me with something more transparent than "LOL ZOMG FAG".

*smooches*
lsdbeta said @ 1:17pm GMT on 21st Jun
There you got man, you've almost got it. Now try it with less "defensive".

Let's all enjoy the internets in good spirit!

*thrusts*
zsander said @ 6:12pm GMT on 21st Jun
And remember kids, your epeen isn't enough if you can't be offensive too! Learning is half the battle! :D

*Bites but finds nothing substantial*
lsdbeta said @ 4:41am GMT on 22nd Jun
Hahaha, nice. The other half of course is to taking a picture next to two women with borderline down syndrome then thinking you're the shit on the internet while reminding everybody of:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l119/laura235_2006/guido.jpg
zsander said @ 5:58am GMT on 22nd Jun
Shit, mental note: Move to NJ, Get a shitty haircut, invest in excess tanner and AXE body spray! I'm sure I can borrow some from your private stock :)

I'm afraid I'm going to have to miss out on the bad italian descent; my genetic lottery wasn't that bad.
lsdbeta said @ 10:09am GMT on 22nd Jun
You sure know a lot about that guy. Must be a relation of yours. I think I get it now, those in the picture are your sisters :P
zsander said @ 10:32am GMT on 22nd Jun
Oh, my mistake! I thought the pic was, at last, your own entry to the 2009 SE Prom Gallery.

The previous down's syndrome commentary, however, coupled with the mention of sisters, does have me wondering just how much of your own family tree is un-forked...
arrowhen said @ 7:28pm GMT on 21st Jun
Wow, oversensitive tool much?
zsander said @ 7:34pm GMT on 21st Jun
It's a remarkably sensitive tool in fact, but fine-tuning and extensive use has that effect. So far premature ejaculation hasn't shown itself yet though :]
sua_sponte said @ 7:40pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:4 Funny]
Wow, asshole much?

Shiny red shirt: $45
Paying two hookers to stand next to you so you can take a picture for the Internets: $200
Bail when one of them turns out to be a cop: $500
Being called an asshole by the guy who bought the shirt, paid the hookers, and then had to be bailed out: Priceless.
zsander said @ 7:41pm GMT on 21st Jun
Cool story, bro!
sua_sponte said @ 11:38pm GMT on 21st Jun
By the way, the one on the right gives me a special feeling in my seminifrious tubules.
zsander said @ 12:34am GMT on 22nd Jun
Yeah, mine too, especially about 2 hours ago.
sua_sponte said @ 3:28am GMT on 22nd Jun
Time for your sponge bath, was it?
zsander said @ 3:49am GMT on 22nd Jun
I think you meant 'tongue bath', or over at least a localized area, but yeah.
sua_sponte said @ 5:17am GMT on 22nd Jun
Tomorrow is fish stick day
zsander said @ 5:56am GMT on 22nd Jun
I'll be sure and get you your lunch ticket, then. Don't forget your bus pass!
sua_sponte said @ 8:14pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I'm not surprised you needed a tongue bath. Tards often have poor oral hygiene. Try using mouthwash and Nurse Ratched won't have to scrape off your flapper as often.
zsander said @ 10:12pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I'd come up with something snarky in response, but looks like someone else added the appropriate mod already :)
red october said @ 2:56am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:-1]
Holy christ you're a daft cunt. You've just got to have the last word and you don't even realise that people just couldn't be fucked replying to you anymore. Your attitude is that of a 7 year old. Go piss up a rope, your life is a monument to stupidity and you don't even see it.

And for the record, yes you do look like a loser, and your girlfriends look disgusting (though I'd like to see the tits of the one on the right).
zsander said @ 3:02am GMT on 23rd Jun
Loser. Hmm. Damn, I just got told! And yet, you're the one taking the time out of your busy schedule to add in your two cents. I dunno how dumb that makes you, exactly, but ah well. In all honesty I'm happy with my life, and yeah, the last word bit is just for the Lulz, as the 4channers have it. Going for the endurance run in a game of The Dozens seems rather amusing. Especially when shitheads like you pipe up :)
Sarahbear said @ 3:51am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1]
Wow asshole much?

Most of that argument I could care less about, but that's just rude to call the women disgusting. I thought they were both cute girls and had nice outfits. Esp love red hair :D

zsander said @ 4:09am GMT on 23rd Jun
I appreciate the compliment to them, I'll be happy to pass it along. :)
They've got good senses of humour, so they've been happy to accept the positive commentary and laugh at the rest.
kang said @ 11:48am GMT on 21st Jun
Another "I've got two girlfriends" guy. Noted.
zsander said @ 12:45pm GMT on 21st Jun
By all means, if you disbelieve, your call.
monkeynuts said @ 3:39pm GMT on 21st Jun
in no way am I jealous of your two girlfriends at all.

I in fact fear for your penis...
leswilkerson said @ 4:08pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
And those two, perfectly functional legs he's standing on.
monkeynuts said @ 4:33pm GMT on 21st Jun
yes, I do also fear for his legs as I know what it's like to only have partial functioning legs.


but mostly his penis, and maybe his dignity.
zsander said @ 6:08pm GMT on 21st Jun
Thus far all three stand remarkably intact. All three get a great deal of exercise, though.
monkeynuts said @ 9:21pm GMT on 21st Jun
I'm literally too exhausted looking at the three of you that I cannot possibly imagine the amount of exercise you must have to do.
zsander said @ 6:09am GMT on 22nd Jun
The secret: Monstrous doses of PCP.
willrogers said @ 5:23am GMT on 21st Jun
How tall are you?
zsander said @ 10:11am GMT on 21st Jun
6'5", roughly... I tend to tower over most people I know.
Persephone13 said @ 12:04am GMT on 22nd Jun
You are sexy. I want three.
zsander said @ 12:35am GMT on 22nd Jun
Well, if you're ever in San Francisco... :]
Naruki said @ 3:01am GMT on 23rd Jun
zsander is the new McBitch.
zsander said @ 5:31am GMT on 23rd Jun
Only for you, hotness.
hildeaux said @ 12:49am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:5 Underrated]

This is from the time I found my sophomore-year homecoming dress at a thrift store for $6.
sua_sponte said @ 4:10am GMT on 21st Jun
Nice dress. Please remove it and take another picture. This time from slightly behind with a little more arch to your back.
Dioxin said @ 5:40am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:4 Funny]
I don't know. The dress without the woman would appear pointless.
sua_sponte said @ 8:40pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 WTF]
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themanwhoeatslettus said @ 1:21am GMT on 23rd Jun
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Sarahbear said @ 3:47am GMT on 23rd Jun
NICE! make a funny one of me... if you have time :D
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 9:41am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
here is what i came up with

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i just did silly stuff until it cracked me up
yes i laugh at my own jokes
Torp said @ 5:19am GMT on 21st Jun
Nice Dress, you got lucky there
lsdbeta said @ 10:48am GMT on 21st Jun
Wow, that's actually really hot. I like it!

Congrats on the dress too, that's an awesome dress in itself but 6 bucks! Noice!
Fenny said @ 2:51pm GMT on 21st Jun
Cute toes!
partick10014 said @ 2:46am GMT on 22nd Jun
you look wonderful, thanks for sharing
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 9:58am GMT on 23rd Jun
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ComposerNate said @ 12:55am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2 Underrated]
snowfox said @ 3:25am GMT on 21st Jun
+1 Underrated because there is no +1 Awesome
ComposerNate said @ 9:18am GMT on 21st Jun
Kat said @ 8:01pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
monkeynuts said @ 7:43am GMT on 21st Jun
+1 Underrated because there is no +1 Illegal Pr0n
monkeynuts said @ 7:44am GMT on 21st Jun
FUCK!
Moderate
Reply
*groan*
anonymousbob said @ 1:04am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2]


Yes ladies, I am available.
anonymousbob said @ 1:05am GMT on 21st Jun
holy over sized image batman! removing linky, fixing.
ComposerNate said @ 1:07am GMT on 21st Jun
Images hosted by photobucket can be resized through their in-browser editor.
anonymousbob said @ 1:08am GMT on 21st Jun
done and done
Silent said @ 1:12am GMT on 21st Jun
And he means done.
sensibleb said @ 3:07am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:4 Funny]
The medal on the right is the Cunningulal Medal of Endurance, awarded after an extended tour of duty in Sweden.
EPT said @ 4:11am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:5 Insightful]
The medal in the middle is for coming second place in the Matthew Broderick Pose Competition.
kishi said @ 5:00am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:3]
The medal on the right is in commemoration of the loss of most of his eyebrows in meritorious action against the enemy.
kishi said @ 5:01am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Classy Pr0n]
Shit, left. I've developed a complete inability to keep directions straight in my mind.
Dioxin said @ 5:32am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
The shoulder patch denotes the 69 Infantry Division, the Bad Ass Bandits
kishi said @ 5:38am GMT on 21st Jun
When it comes to ass bandits, I don't know if I want them to be good at it or not.
Dioxin said @ 5:45am GMT on 21st Jun
Their motto is "Bandits do it sideways!"
utah said @ 1:11pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2 Funny]
"You won't see us coming"?
partick10014 said @ 2:56am GMT on 22nd Jun
you saying my ex-girlfriend was a bandit?

any ways, i turned her in and collected some booty in the bargain.... all is good.
anonymousbob said @ 5:34am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2 Underrated]
Ribbon on the left: Sea Service Deployment Ribbon
From Left to Right on the Medals Side: National Defense, Iraqi Campaign, and War on Terrorism (thanks bush, that medal cost like $12.)
Navier-Strokes said @ 6:16am GMT on 21st Jun
If no one else will say it, then I will.

Thank you.
manoreason said @ 6:38am GMT on 21st Jun
If no one else will say it, then I will.

Please give more thought to who you will kill for, who you will kill, and why.
Ronin.ca said @ 6:50am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2]
Why the assumption that he hasn't done all those things?
Ronin.ca said @ 7:00am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Let me expand, minus the snark:

There are some people on this site who have been in combat and killed people, I've spoken to my uncles who fought in WW2, I've seen interviews etc with vets and I've found a lot of them to be extremely thoughtful about what it is that they did, why they did them and the costs to both those they did them to and to themselves.

This assumption that they never reflect feeds into a "soldiers are all dumb as mud" demonizing that gets on my nerves.

I'm no pro-war nut (no matter what certain twatwaffles on this site have decided) but generalizations like this are lazy and counter productive.

Also, someone shouldn't someone be getting on laying a matthew broderick layer onto his face?
manoreason said @ 7:23am GMT on 21st Jun
I didn't imply that he had done no reflecting, only that he should do more until he gets rid of that uniform.

"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."

-Smedley Butler
manoreason said @ 7:29am GMT on 21st Jun
I'll throw in one more quote since it's so goddamned good:

"I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."

-Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.
Ronin.ca said @ 7:36am GMT on 21st Jun
Yes yes, we've all read that.. thank you for dispensing your magic, private wisdom...
papango said @ 8:19am GMT on 21st Jun
manoreason doesn't beleive in any sort of government action, that's why he uses his own internet and not the one developed by the military. also drives on his own roads and treats his own sewerage (most of that ends up here).
Ronin.ca said @ 8:29am GMT on 21st Jun
Are we about to have the libertarianism is dumb conversation again? Because I'm tired and would very much like for you to hold it in another thread.
papango said @ 8:32am GMT on 21st Jun
No, I'm not going there. It's a morass of ill thought out arguments that descends rapidly into name calling and stupidity on both sides. (It's only 8.30pm. Big weekend?)
Ronin.ca said @ 8:34am GMT on 21st Jun
Fair enough.. I'm just tuckered out.. there was the midwinter carnival yesterday night but mostly it's because my son has a wicked cold and I'm constantly applying for jobs... which just wears at your soul.
papango said @ 8:37am GMT on 21st Jun
Nasty. I thought you moved to Dunedin for a job? Or were you just attracted by the marvelous weather and the vibrant couch burning?
Ronin.ca said @ 8:44am GMT on 21st Jun
Oh the couch burning of course... do you know the city? There's this little street called Titan and at some point a few months back both ends had burning sofas on them. You can still see the burn marks on the asphalt.

Seriously though, my wife is here studying at Otago, so I'm hunting for a real job.. I've got some light contract work but I'm looking around to do some ID work...
papango said @ 8:46am GMT on 21st Jun
Oh, yes. Most of my cousins went to Otago University and I've visited many times. What's ID? Industrial design?
Ronin.ca said @ 8:58am GMT on 21st Jun
Instructional Design.
papango said @ 9:10am GMT on 21st Jun
I have no idea what that is. Probably it will turn out that I am once more ignorant of something that has shaped my world. Hope you find a good job.
Ronin.ca said @ 3:00am GMT on 22nd Jun
Oddly, just now a nice man from Auckland called me and they are going to fly me up there to have a job interview. Now I have to remember everything I know.. gargh.
brat#3 said @ 7:51am GMT on 22nd Jun
If you end up moving up here, shoot me a PM :)
papango said @ 9:11am GMT on 22nd Jun
I don't think he's so desperate for work that he'll babysit for food (yet).
ethanos said @ 11:07am GMT on 21st Jun
Intelligent Design
Navier-Strokes said @ 8:47am GMT on 21st Jun
Just out of curiosity, given the recent down in the economy,
is there an interest in having a post for job stuff?
This is a community of people, I wouldn't be surprised if some people here are at places that are hiring.
Bonus if SE isn't blocked at work.
Hipatitis! said @ 6:52pm GMT on 21st Jun
There was a post a few weeks ago, but the job discussion was tangential.

...Do it.
willrogers said @ 8:19am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Well, there you go.

It's not that you want him and other soldiers to do critical analysis and deep reflection, it's that you want them to come to the same conclusion you have about the military and war.

You don't want independent thought, even if it is born of deep thought and critique, you just want them to come to yur position becuase you think it is the only correct one.
Ronin.ca said @ 8:28am GMT on 21st Jun
DING DING DING!! We have a winner!

And since we're substituting our own thoughts for those of long dead writers, how's about I trot out another oldie but goodie?

"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." (in this case I've gone with Churchill, though the same sentiment has been ascribed to Orwell, but after a slight detour to Wikipedia, I've discovered that no one is sure he ever said it).
Dioxin said @ 8:52am GMT on 21st Jun
I've always liked Orwell's version. "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence against the infidels."
EPT said @ 12:46pm GMT on 21st Jun
Given that the rough men in context here are american soldiers in the Iraq war, how do you justify that quote? Which Iraqis were threatening your sleep in any way?
BergZ said @ 3:30pm GMT on 21st Jun
I think the quote is from the perspective of 'when militaries are used judiciously for national defence'... you know, the way they were meant to be used.
Ronin.ca said @ 1:51am GMT on 22nd Jun

None of the Iraqis were doing anything to me. Well the ones that drive cabs in Montreal scare the fuck out of me but that's it.

But since he posted a quote about all war being a racket etc etc etc I figured the context was all solders and soldiering.

manoreason said @ 5:37pm GMT on 21st Jun
"you want them to come to the same conclusion you have about the military and war."

No fucking shit! You're right: I don't want murdering going on.
sua_sponte said @ 7:46pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:3 Underrated]
Neither do I. But I served. And I killed.

The one saying I agree with is the one Marines use all the time: Nobody likes to fight. But someone has to know how.

If you want to disagree with policy, that's fine. But don't lay that bullshit on the soldiers. The soldiers are in it for noble reasons. Did Smedley Butler say his Marine Corps service was dishonorable, or was he saying that the uses to which the Marines were put by civilian authority were dishonorable?

Make the distinction. Otherwise you're just being an asshole and can go fuck yourself.
willrogers said @ 1:29am GMT on 22nd Jun
Don't bother.

He's completely biased against all soldiers and thinks they're all a bunch of criminals and murderers, as donnie also voiced.

They completely oversimplify complex issues and ignore the nuance involved because it's much harder to acknowledge and understand these nebulous and uncertain qualities.

It's much harder to take a hard stance on something when you acknowledge and understand how complex it is.
donnie said @ 1:14pm GMT on 22nd Jun
He's completely biased against all soldiers and thinks they're all a bunch of criminals and murderers, as donnie also voiced.

Don't put words in my mouth - this is absolutely untrue. Try listening instead of talking and maybe you'll learn.

Ass.

willrogers said @ 3:13pm GMT on 22nd Jun
You said,
"What does it matter? In crime we call this being an "accomplice" and you are just as guilty for willfully and knowingly assisting the criminal effort.

Self defense is not grabbing a shotgun and breaking into my neighbour's house, guns blazing, just because he looked at me funny and I'm sure he's got something hiding in his garage."

You are explicitly calling them criminals here. And you are obviously referencing the Iraq War and calling it unjust if not criminal. Thus, you are calling all Iraq War soldiers and vets criminals, which is just plain ignorant and an oversimplification of many different issues from international law to what it is to be a soldier.
donnie said @ 4:05pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Befehl ist Befehl. What's good for the goose ought to be good for the gander. The Nazis weren't hung for genocide - they were hung for "planning and waging an aggressive war" - full stop.
willrogers said @ 6:51pm GMT on 22nd Jun
And how many ground level, Kriegsmarine, and Luftwaffe soldiers were tried?

It the leadership that was tried, not the soldiers.

But back to Iraq, you are oversimplifying and ignoring the context and specifics of the war. The evidence, rhetoric and justification was about a preemptive military strike against Iraq especially with the danger of its supposed nuclear program and materials. Preemptive war is perfectly legal under international law and is the right of every sovereign nation. It is expressly not aggressive, it is a defensive war started against the potential aggressor before they can actually start the war. Just look at the Six Day War.

As I've previously mentioned, the problem is that international law isn't specific enough about the threshold level that threat must meet to allow preemptive war and the timeline for the preemptive war in relation to the war it's supposed to prevent.

And even though we know now that all the evidence against Iraq was bullshit and Cheney and Bush pretty much knew from the start of intelligence gathering, the soldiers sent to Iraq did not know this and thus were acting in good faith as soldiers fighting a preemptive war.

But it's more complicated than that, especially with the Cheney Doctrine, which includes the 1% doctrine that even the most minimal intelligence or support for a potential threat is enough to meet the threshold to justify a preemptive war. Again, this is technically legal under international law as long as the leaders of the nation legitimately think that the evidence is real.

In summation, all of this is a lot more complicated than "Iraq is a bad war and I don't like it, so all the US soldiers fighting it are criminal accomplices." You should be ashamed of yourself for comparing US soldiers to the Nazis.
theolypse said @ 7:13pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I'm about 112% certain you're missing his point, here. He's calling preemptive warfare immoral, not illegal. Or he should be, because that's a stronger case.

And if I'm right, your repetitions of, "everyone has said it's okay for this immoral action to take place," are not going to convince a moral absolutist of anything.
willrogers said @ 7:35pm GMT on 22nd Jun
My point is that preemptive war is legal AND moral.

There is nothing wrong with taking the fight to your enemy before they kill your people.

Why should you have to wait until all those tanks and planes amassing on the border actually cross that imaginary line before you start defending yourself?

Why should you have to lose lives before you defend yourself?

It's just like shooting a guy pointing a loaded gun at you. Why should you have to wait until after you get shot to stop him?
donnie said @ 9:10pm GMT on 22nd Jun
You cannot make the argument that the Iraq war was preemptive. It was preventive. There is an enormous difference. Saddam was not a threat and there was never any evidence that he was.
donnie said @ 9:11pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I also apologise for my lack of precision earlier - I used the terms interchangeably a few times, it was a mistake.
willrogers said @ 9:33pm GMT on 22nd Jun
But see, that's the dispute.

The Bush Administration wasn't necessarily advocating for preventative war, they were trying to determine more concrete definitions of the terms of action for preemptive war.

It is somewhat of a nebulous issue, especially when WMDs and terrorists are concerned.

I mean, terrorists are by definition in violation of the Geneva Conventions for a multitude of reasons when they are being used and supported by a state like Afghanistan, including not wearing some form of uniform or identifying markings, not carrying weapons openly, hiding within civilian populations, etc.

With Iraq, it wasn't necessarily a preventative war because war wasn't the the immediate and only reaction to the supposed threat caused by Saddam. The Bush Administration made it clear that the violations of UN resolutions were the first step in Saddam's threat and his abiding by those lawful Resolutions would prevent war. They cited his history of flaunting these resolutions and other attempts to minimize the threat caused by Saddam's regime and thus framed the war debate as one of the progressively harsher responses to the Saddam threat and a necessary event given the failure of the previous responses.

I don't agree with the Iraq War, especially not with the way it was executed, especially in light of the the work and counsel of military and civilian leaders like Shinseki and Powell, but it really wasn't a clear illegal act of preventative warfare and was actually quite cleverly executed within the nebulous bounds of the right of anticipatory self-defense.

If you want to see some bad Bush Administration lawyering look at their reading of the Geneva Conventions, other international agreements and even US anti-torture legislation with regards to "illegal combatants."
theolypse said @ 9:55pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
This really sounds like, "Well, they fooled me."

Is that what you mean?
willrogers said @ 10:48pm GMT on 22nd Jun
No.

What I mean is that it's interesting how the Bush Administration arranged and presented it's strategy for preemptive war in such a way that was legal, could work unilaterally if the UN rejected it (as it did), and would still hold up as legal even if the evidence turned out to be dubious at best or even patently false (as much of it did).

Personally, I always thought something was up when they acted like Hans Blix and the other weapons inspectors were incompetent morons and all the US weapons guys were so great. I also thought the yellow cake uranium stuff could have been handled in Africa without even having to deal with Iraq at all.

And I was also really hoping they'd put htose resources to better use in Sudan and Darfur, so I was always against the Iraq War. But that doesn't mean I can't look at the international and military law in an objective way.
donnie said @ 1:19pm GMT on 22nd Jun
The one saying I agree with is the one Marines use all the time: Nobody likes to fight. But someone has to know how.

It doesn't mean you have to cut out the part of your brain that ALSO knows how to think. Otherwise, how the hell do you know who to shoot? I'd defend my country with my dying breath, but I'll be damned if anyone is going to tell me to invade a country of peasants on the other side of the globe for anything you might want to call "duty" or "honour" or even to "protect" my family from some guy with a slingshot 6000 miles away. If you can't tell defense from a turkey-shoot, you shouldn't be carrying a gun.
willrogers said @ 3:20pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Soldiers don't have the luxury of deciding which wars they want to fight.

Their job is to go where they are told and follow orders that are not illegal or violations of the rules of war.

As much as I disagree with the Iraq War, there is little evidence that there is criminal activity or war violations by US soldiers beyond the few aberrations like those few soldiers that killed that family so they could rape the daughter.

And it is not that simple that it's not self-defense to fight Iraq.

The evidence was bad, but most Americans didn't know that and most US soldiers didn't know that at the time.

And the foreign policy logic is less clear cut, too. International law allows preemptive war against other sovereign nations, like the Six Day War. The problem is that it doesn't specify how soon that threat must be and what the threshold is for a "threat."

Just because you disagree with the war doesn't automatically make it and the soldiers fighting it a war crime.
donnie said @ 4:07pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Soldiers don't have the luxury of deciding which wars they want to fight.

Bull-SHIT. They not only have the luxury, they have the DUTY to do so. Under the treatises of current international law every soldier is responsible for ensuring that their actions and their orders are in line with the law and rules of war.
willrogers said @ 6:59pm GMT on 22nd Jun
As I have mentioned several times, US soldiers went into Iraq in good faith as part of a preemptive war and the vast majority have not committed any crimes under international or US law or violated any of the rules of war.

And soldiers are not allowed to choose what wars they want to fight. If they do not follow orders they will be court martialed. They can only disobey orders if they are blatantly illegal under US or international law, like unjustly killing persons with protected status, intentionally going without uniform to hide among civilians, using poisons, etc.

And you cannot be a volunteer and a conscientious objector. IF you have a problem with what is being done you follow the chain of command with your grievance.

The US soldiers aren't Nazis committing crimes against humanity, they aren't hiding behind orders to justify their actions, their actions and orders are perfectly legal and nowhere near what the Nazis did in the war or in the Holocaust.
donnie said @ 7:50pm GMT on 22nd Jun
You're not listening. Preemptive war IS ILLEGAL - end of story. No matter who you are or what country you are in, if you are ordered to make a first-strike against another country you are in violation of international law. Read the UN Charter some day.

And you cannot be a volunteer and a conscientious objector.

Of course you can. I could volunteer to fight to protect my country and then, at a later date, be ordered to do something illegal - invade another country. It is perfectly reasonable to be ready and willing to defend your country but, at the same time, be entirely unwilling to lay siege to another.

The US soldiers aren't Nazis committing crimes against humanity

Again, you're not listening. The Nazis weren't hung for "crimes against humanity" - they were hung for planning and waging an aggressive war. The Nuremburg defense is as invalid in the case of crimes against humanity as it is in the case of a war of aggression.

Crimes against humanity are not the only way to violate international law.
sua_sponte said @ 8:20pm GMT on 22nd Jun
"Preemptive war" and "choice" and all the other horseshit you're horking out there has nothing to do with it, from the ground-level soldier's perspective.

You act as if every private has to ponder every order like some sort of philosophy student. In fact, thinking is what gets soldiers killed at ground level. That's what the chain of command is for and why we have civilian oversight of the military--when the military is committed to an operation, there's never going to be 100 percent agreement on what is "right" and what is "wrong". Even in national defense! The military is an instrument. The hand that wields that instrument is the collective will of the American people as transmitted through their elected representatives.

Don't like the war? Blame the representatives, not the people who are fighting it for you.
donnie said @ 9:16pm GMT on 22nd Jun
In fact, thinking is what gets soldiers killed at ground level.

You're confusing circumstance. When you're in the shit and bullets are flying past your head it's obviously too late to think - you're in the shit and you have to deal with it. I'm not at all suggesting that soldiers break out a copy of Plato every time they reload a fucking magazine.

I'm talking about when your feet are still on home soil and you're given the order to go jump in an airplane and travel around the world to go shoot people - there is ample time to think in this instance and there is ample opportunity to make an informed decision before you find yourself in the shit with people shooting at you because your airborne buddies have just flattened an elementary school.
willrogers said @ 10:25pm GMT on 22nd Jun
But you're not looking at context.

First of all, if you have this period of reflection and decide not to go, you go straight to the fucking brig. Don't pass go, don't collect $200.

Secondly, the soldiers relied on the civilians authorities to do the intelligence investigation. It's not the job of the average soldier to be an intelligence expert and know everything that is going on in the intelligence community and with regards to Iraq specifically. You need to delegate roles and soldiers just have to rely on the intelligence they get from the government.

Soldiers will tell you frankly that intelligence often fucks up but I can't imagine that the majority of soldiers thought that the intelligence against Iraq was as poor as it really was at the time. And we really shouldn't expect them to because they aren't experts in the field and don't have the data to even begin to make assessments. I seriously doubt even guys near the top of the military command like Petraeus, Odierno, Shinseki, or anyone outside of the joint chiefs even had an inkling that the intel was so bad.

Thus, it's hard to seriously criticize most of the soldiers for not challenging the Administration's assertions about Iraq. The blame really lies with the civilian leadership and Cheney in particular, but if you want to blame the soldiers for anything it probably should be at not being angry enough after the fact for being essentially deceived about the quality and veracity of the intel.
willrogers said @ 9:11pm GMT on 22nd Jun
http://www.cdi.org/news/law/preemptive-war.cfm

Here's a great article about the legality of preemptive war, which essentially explores the meaning and legality of anticipatory self-defense in light of history, the UN Charter, the Iraq war, and other important considerations.

Here are some important quotes:

"To the extent the UN Charter can be deemed a relevant source of international law then some right of self-defense remains, which very well may include a right of anticipatory self-defense. "

"The prevailing view probably is that, one way or another, anticipatory self-defense is permissible but traditionally has required the existence of an imminent threat."

"One could argue that the rule does not actually require an attack to be imminent to act, but rather permits defensive measures to be taken before one passes a point in time when it is too late to prevent catastrophe. "

"Such a point [earlier in the proliferation process of WMDs and a WMD attack], it is argued, could represent the presence of a danger justifying a "defensive" first-strike, perhaps when accompanied by other factors such as a history of aggression, ties to terrorism, or certain criminal activities by the target regime."
donnie said @ 9:20pm GMT on 22nd Jun
If this satisfies you, then I'm rather certain that you could justify almost anything to yourself.
willrogers said @ 9:36pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Don't just rad the quotes I selected, read the whole essay, it's really good.

It's not about justifying anything, it's about figuring out what international law and modern rules of war say about anticipatory self-defense and goes to explore what it means in the post-9/11 world and what the Bush Administration's policies are.

If you read closely, it even has a subtle jab at Cheney in an otherwise objective assessment.
donnie said @ 3:24am GMT on 23rd Jun
A subtle jab at Cheney is a poor substitute for a good argument.
steele.ero said @ 8:09pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Do feel the soldiers of the last 8 years have been true to their Oath of Enlistment?
donnie said @ 9:26pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Feeling is irrelevant. It is a demonstrable fact that the soldiers in Iraq are ALL in violation of their oath of enlistment. The Iraq war was never declared, and going to war without a declaration is in contravention to the US Constitution, and acts in contravention of the US Constitution are also, by definition, in contravention to the Oath of Enlistment. How anyone feels about it doesn't matter one bit. Guilty is guilty.
willrogers said @ 1:11am GMT on 22nd Jun
You're missing my point.

You claimed to want SEer soldiers and others to do deep reflecting but you don't really want that.

You really just want them to agree with even if there is no real critical thought and just be lock step with you, like some groupthink.

That's the difference, I and others here want these soldiers to reflect upon their service, what it means to be a soldier, etc. and we know they eventually do it.

You just want them to agree with you, which is ironic because you are chastising them for supposedly being lock-step with the military and not being critical or reflective.
willrogers said @ 8:29am GMT on 21st Jun
Yeah, and all those douchey catagorical statements about soldiers being dumb and not critically thinking/reflecting, etc. vastly oversimplify the issue and context.

This is especially true when most people in the military aren't actually active combat and many perform roles that don't involve killing people.

Case in point, my cousin disarms IEDs, mines and other explosives in Iraq so that military personnel and civilians alike don't get maimed and killed by them.

In fact, all the men in my family have been military vets except for me and my brothers, from medics to submarine mechanics to snipers to many other diverse roles and it pisses me off to see people denigrate them in various ways, especially by oversimplifying what it is to serve your country, be in a war, etc.
Ronin.ca said @ 8:32am GMT on 21st Jun
Exactly.

Two of my uncles who served were artists. One back in Canada and the other over enemy lines drawing maps for invasions.

Another was on the Murmansk run as a merchant marine captain.

Not one of them was stupid, and not one did anything that fit the oversimplification of military service that goes on all the time.
donnie said @ 12:21pm GMT on 21st Jun
What does it matter? In crime we call this being an "accomplice" and you are just as guilty for willfully and knowingly assisting the criminal effort.

Self defense is not grabbing a shotgun and breaking into my neighbour's house, guns blazing, just because he looked at me funny and I'm sure he's got something hiding in his garage.
willrogers said @ 1:24am GMT on 22nd Jun
Soldiers don't choose to go to war, they choose to serve their country and follow their orders that are not crimes or violations of the rules of war.

I'm pretty sure that most of these people didn't sign up for the military to intentionally go to Iraq, they were already enlisted men and women who went where their superiors ordered them.

But yeah, they're all criminals and accomplices to crimes because that's exactly how it all works and isn't at all a biased oversimplification of an extremely complicated issue.
donnie said @ 1:01pm GMT on 22nd Jun
and follow their orders that are not crimes or violations of the rules of war.

again.
willrogers said @ 3:53pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Yeah, the majority of US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't committed crimes or war violations. They've abided by US military law, international law, the unofficial rules of war, etc.

Just because you disagree with the war(s) doesn't automatically make what they are doing crimes. They are acting in good faith.
donnie said @ 4:08pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Both wars are fundamentally in contravention to established international law. They are, in and of themselves, warcrimes.
willrogers said @ 7:10pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Please explain how they are war crimes.

As I've already mentioned, Iraq was attacked as part of a perfectly legal war of preemption.

Afghanistan was harboring and supporting terrorists. By supporting terrorists within their nation, the Taliban caused Afghanistan to lose its rights and protections under the Geneva Conventions, specifically the Third Convention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention

Supporting the Al-Qaeda terrorists that attacked the US makes Afghanistan liable for the attack and it is as if Afghanistan attacked the US. Thus, the US was at war with Afghanistan because of 9/11, making that war a legal one of defense.

Therefore, both Afghanistan and Iraq are technically legal wars that you just strongly disagree with, but again, that doesn't make them illegal.
donnie said @ 7:58pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Iraq presented no danger whatsoever. It is ludicrous to think that Iraq was in any way capable of projecting power towards the US. If you want to talk about fantasy then forget it - you can justify anything you want if you don't care about reality.
willrogers said @ 9:46pm GMT on 22nd Jun
It's not about "fantasy," you are ignoring the full context of what happened 2001-2003.

Sure, the Bush Administration, especially Cheney's office, had a massive confirmation bias in just looking for proof of their belief that Iraq was a threat, but you have to look at it in light of 9/11. The belief wasn't that Saddam was only a threat via traditional warfare, but that his resources and WMDs would be utilized by terrorist proxies as with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

I'm not saying that it was a very likely threat, just that it met the minimal standard of proof of the Bush Administration and Cheney in particular and therefore justified the preemptive war. There aren't really any hard and fast rules or laws against this policy or standard, so what they did was technically legal, but I personally think there should be from now on.

If you read the article I posted in my other comment, the authors say that it is a somewhat dangerous precedent, but still technically legal, and that the international community should use this as a lesson and opportunity to more fully elucidate the bounds of self-defense and preemptive war, especially with the prevalence of WMDs and terrorism (which is much different post-Cold War).
theolypse said @ 6:44pm GMT on 21st Jun
Pacifism doesn't tend to breed respect for soldiers.
kishi said @ 7:44pm GMT on 21st Jun
Sadly, meeting some soldiers doesn't tend to breed respect for soldiers. My dumbfuck of a brother-in-law is a Marine, and every time I spend time around him, I have to remind myself that not all Marines are wastes of organs.
willrogers said @ 1:18am GMT on 22nd Jun
Yeah, my cousin is super-conservative and sometimes hard to be around because of it but I think it's probably a lot to do with his service rather than a reason he joined the military.

He was a medic, recently retired, and was responsible for fixing up everybody, friends, enemies, civilians, and I think it made him so misanthropic that he basically became a very reactionary and conservative guy.

He owns a ton of (really cool) guns but isn't really socially conservative, just very cynical.
donnie said @ 7:34pm GMT on 21st Jun
Why the assumption that he hasn't done all those things?

medals...Iraqi Campaign, War on Terrorism
Ronin.ca said @ 3:03am GMT on 22nd Jun
Oh I see.

No, actually I don't.

Was he to refuse them?

It's funny, but I've never really figured out what people like you want of the soldiers... if you're asking them to pick and choose which wars they go to en masse you're basically asking them to revolt. To have a coup.

Which, the last time I checked, doesn't usually work out all that well.

Seriously, just admit that you hate everyone in uniform and we can all move on.
willrogers said @ 6:07am GMT on 22nd Jun
It shows how little he knows of the military.

They are supposed to be apolitical. They are supposed to fight the wars they are given within the law and rules of war. They are supposed to do their duties and follow orders the best they can.

They're not mercenaries that can leave when they aren't getting paid enough, are mistreated, or just don't want to fight, etc.

If they disagree with the civilian leadership or their orders they can help vote them out of office when elections come around, just like any other American.

It's an arduous, complicated life that I'm glad I don't have to take part in (yet?).
donnie said @ 1:00pm GMT on 22nd Jun
They are supposed to fight the wars they are given within the law and rules of war.

This.
donnie said @ 1:03pm GMT on 22nd Jun
The fundamental notions of offense and defense need to be understood before we can engage in a sensible discussion. If you don't know the difference between being "starting a fight" and "defending yourself" then wtf?
sua_sponte said @ 8:25pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Oh, shut the fuck up, Donnie.

If you don't understand the difference between a soldier and a policymaker then you're just talking out your ass.

Let's say someone takes a swing at you--or better yet, you think they did. Does your fist ponder the moral and ethical dimensions of getting into a fight, or does your brain do the thinking?

The military's job is to be the most effective and efficient fighting force it can be, not decide policy. If the military is deciding policy then we've got a whole fresh set of problems. Just ask the North Koreans, for fuck's sake.

Oh, sorry, you can't ask them, because they live in a FUCKING MILITARY DICTATORSHIP.

donnie said @ 9:13pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Both cases are doomed to fail - armies that cannot think will be abused by their commanders. Armies that do not obey cannot function. The only stable situation is to have armies and commanders both comprised of active, thinking people. To advocate anything else is foolish, imo.
willrogers said @ 9:14pm GMT on 22nd Jun
And more importantly, why shouldn't you be able to stop someone from attacking you before you've lost lives?

And this is especially important with Iraq because they were believed to have restarted their nuclear program (albeit supported with poor intelligence) and if the first act of aggression that must occur before you can defend yourself is a nuclear attack then you are risking hundreds of thousands of lives at least.
donnie said @ 9:19pm GMT on 22nd Jun
And I am accused of being philosophical and detached from reality. Do you honestly see the Iraq war as this type of situation? I think it's a very difficult argument to make.
willrogers said @ 10:53pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I personally don't believe this but it isn't really that far-fetched of an argument back in 2003.

Saddam had a nuke program. He kicked inspectors out repeatedly. Many accused him of still having WMD programs. He was an aggressor in the region and an enemy of the US.

North Korea fits this mold, too, and they have nukes, so I think that it was a somewhat legitimate fear to be worried about Iraq and nukes, especially with the amount of terrorism and instability in the region.
donnie said @ 3:26am GMT on 23rd Jun
I can't believe what I'm hearing.

The mighty United States - prepared to defend itself from any barrage of nuclear warheads delivered by the Soviets from space - is now shitting bricks because NK can throw a broken rocket into the sea?

And you take this as a credible argument?

I can say nothing that will make any sense to you.
anonymousbob said @ 4:59am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1]
I will kill for the Marines to the right and left of me. I will kill any enemy threatening my fellow Marines. I do it because they are my brothers.

I've given it way more thought than you ever will. I've cried about it. I've drank til I blacked out. I wake up in cold sweats from nightmares. You'll eventually forget but, I never will.
zsander said @ 6:59am GMT on 22nd Jun
I was never enlisted myself (spare you all the details and background), but I've heard some pretty hefty shit from a friend of mine who was deployed in Iraq for awhile. I can't claim to understand every bit of it, and I might not agree with all the reasons, but you do have my respect and sympathies. Feel better man.
ComposerNate said @ 10:53am GMT on 22nd Jun
I would rather die than kill. I was raised in altruism, told this is what Jesus would want, and it stuck beyond any religious belief.

I'm unsure which is the best attitude morally.
anonymousbob said @ 11:33am GMT on 22nd Jun
Well, I'm glad that I'm alive. I wish everyone thought that way but, they don't. I would rather be around to teach my children the same teachings you had. If we all took the "would rather die than kill" route there would be very few of us left.

I don't think you're supposed to be sure.
donnie said @ 1:39pm GMT on 22nd Jun
If we all took the "would rather die than kill" route there would be very few of us left.

Actually, no, we would all be fine. The problem happens when there is at least one person who would rather kill than die - or who may even just want to kill for fun. Evolution generally weeds out "would rather die than kill". The stable psychology is the one which refuses to aggress but will defend.
willrogers said @ 3:31pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Right, because self-preservation is such an evil thing.

Yeah, killing is bad, but sometimes it had to happen to stop people from killing others. Even if it isn't done in defense of one's self, it is still justified by saving the life of another person.

You are again completely ignoring the historical context that US soldiers were sent to Iraq under the auspices of fighting a preemptive war against Saddam. The evidence was shit but the soldiers did not know that, so they acted in good faith to defend themselves against a nation that had been an aggressor several times in the past few decades.

Stop acting like all the soldiers knew it was a fake rationale and that all the evidence was shit at the time. They thought they were defending their country and others from Saddam Hussein.

I'm not saying that we should have fought the Iraq War or anything close to that, but you keep arguing that these soldiers fought knowing they were there to advance Wolfowitz ideology and Bush's daddy issues.
donnie said @ 4:10pm GMT on 22nd Jun
They thought they were defending their country and others from Saddam Hussein.

Hence the request that soldiers try using their head a little more often - to think about these things rather than just blindly following orders.
willrogers said @ 7:29pm GMT on 22nd Jun
What the fuck are you talking about?

Was every soldier supposed to request all the intelligence documents, photos and data that the Bus administration said supported their case before their tied their boots?

They heard all the information about Iraq and had no reason to doubt it or think it was fabricated, they acted good faith. There was no failure on the part of US soldiers in "using their heads."

It was the CIA's job to take care of the intelligence, not the military and especially not soldiers on the ground not tasked in any sort of intelligence role.

You're just acting superior to anyone who doesn't agree with and/or doesn't/didn't act in the way you would.

Any failure of the Iraq war was made in the Bush cabinet, not in the military. The Bush Administration fired or marginalized all the military guys that would have made things go better, like Shinseki and even Powell.
donnie said @ 1:10pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I will kill for the Marines to the right and left of me. I will kill any enemy threatening my fellow Marines.

This is not really clear thinking. Tell me that you can understand that the aggressive action of getting into an airplane and deploying half-way around the world - to take first action in threatening the brothers and families of other people - will make them want to protect themselves and fight you off. What worries me is the fragile criteria required for you to call someone "enemy". It doesn't seem like they have to do much. I only hope you never feel the need to land your planes on my soil and call me "enemy". I hope you never make me "threaten" your brothers to protect my own family.

I can understand why you can't sleep at night, though. That I don't envy you.
theolypse said @ 2:27pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Easy, tiger. Wars are fought for domination of resources, right? Well, neither of your countries has resources his country wants. You're in the clear.
donnie said @ 2:43pm GMT on 22nd Jun
At least I would have respect for someone who was honest about it like that. Any soldier who can stand up and say "yes, we're there to conquer and that's that" - fine, respect. At least that's being honest. It's at odds with what I think is right, but at least that demonstrates awareness.
willrogers said @ 3:25pm GMT on 22nd Jun
You are completely ignoring the historical context.

The invasion began as part of a preemptive war against Iraq.

Sure, it was shitty evidence of a threat, but none of the soldiers knew that.

They were told that Iraq was a threat by various means and they were there to stop it. The majority of the soldiers treated the Iraqis in accordance with military law and the rules of war. Only a small portion of them were involved in the bad shit like killing civilians, torturing people, etc.

The point of that Marine quote is that they will follow the lawful orders of their leaders and kill those who attempt to kill them while they are accomplishing those orders.
tiemy said @ 3:18am GMT on 21st Jun
The constant shaving must fucking suck. I hate doing that shit 4 days a week for work as is.
sua_sponte said @ 4:05am GMT on 21st Jun
Try waxing instead
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 1:17am GMT on 23rd Jun
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headlessfriar said @ 1:20am GMT on 21st Jun
I saw the post title and first thought was a new mafia game.
foobar said @ 1:52am GMT on 21st Jun
Heh, me too.
MmmFiber said @ 9:36am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Is it the one where we all stand awkwardly against the wall sipping from our punch cups?
Grunden Daster said @ 1:29am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
spite48 said @ 2:09am GMT on 21st Jun
Where the hell did you get my picture?
forthelove said @ 3:37am GMT on 21st Jun
Why the hell are you naked?
TheCooler said @ 3:57am GMT on 21st Jun
Why the hell aren't you naked?
theolypse said @ 4:11am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
How the hell do you know that?
Silent said @ 1:30am GMT on 21st Jun
My school had a prom which was pure 80's class, which would have been great except that I graduated in 2001, it was the second "prom" at Oxted County so it was rather rubbish, part of me knows I didn't miss anything, the other part knows if I had gone I would have lived a totally different life and woukd have danced with some girl who I won't name mainly because I only know her first name and partly because I shouldn't even publish that on the internet, so remember, I do not hate you SE, I hate me for being the sort of guy who didn't think much of the people who went to prom.
I suck.
ckfahrenheit said @ 7:37am GMT on 21st Jun
what

you don't have to go to those things
I never did
in fact even bill gates couldn't have paid me to go
*shudder*
Silent said @ 11:07am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
I apologise, I was rather drunk last night, somewhat looking back on the past a bad habit I dislike indulging in but sometimes it can't be helped, anyways I never went to prom and I rarely wear a suit that's not bloodstained so this is the closest to me looking neat and whatnot as you will get:
Oh noes I broked the internet

Silent said @ 11:42am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
Sorry that is far too serious.
I am going to need to remedy this, have a bad picture of me in a costume party as a samurai.
samurai silent broked the net
Silent said @ 4:24pm GMT on 21st Jun
So.. any of you ladies want to dance?
This is a prom after all..
papango said @ 9:28pm GMT on 21st Jun
I love to dance, but this is the prom, so I really need to be getting drunk and blowing one of the caterers in the parking lot. Maybe later, though.
Silent said @ 9:32pm GMT on 21st Jun
Darn.. and here's me with a bottle of vodka, but I'm not a caterer.
monkeynuts said @ 11:08pm GMT on 21st Jun
I'm not a caterer but I often wander parties in a standard waiter uniform carrying a tray of pigs in a blanket.
Resplendent_Elk said @ 2:57pm GMT on 21st Jun
Papercraft ceiling cat?
Silent said @ 3:05pm GMT on 21st Jun
Why yes, in a freak bass guitar accident he got a little squished, but he is still there.
sua_sponte said @ 7:56pm GMT on 21st Jun
"Now it puts the lotion on its' skin..."
Silent said @ 8:05pm GMT on 21st Jun
Excellent movie, but I am now singing the Greenkeepers song.

I'm looking down the hole
You're looking up at me
You're cold and tired
that is easy to see
Lower the rope to you
a bucket and a light
Your membrane will be soft and smooth
and your heart will be mine.

It rubs the lotion on its skin
Or else it gets the hose again..
sua_sponte said @ 11:59pm GMT on 21st Jun
Looking at your "samurai" pic my first reaction was "Now is ze time on shprockets ven ve danzzz..."
Silent said @ 9:10am GMT on 22nd Jun
I do not know whether to be freaked out or not.
Nice accent.
f00m@nB@r said @ 1:53am GMT on 21st Jun
nsfw:

http://www.agentprovocateur.com/tie-me-up/tie-me-up.html
theolypse said @ 2:54am GMT on 21st Jun
You're dirty-sweet and you're my girl.
Get it on,
and we're gone.
You tie me up.
zsander said @ 6:22pm GMT on 21st Jun
Any clue as to the band name, if there is one?
Ronin.ca said @ 6:11am GMT on 22nd Jun
agent provocateur
themightyblot said @ 2:00am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1]
Blottie
themightyblot said @ 2:02am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Photobucket
themightyblot said @ 2:03am GMT on 21st Jun
Hrm. Won't let me edit the original. DAMN YOU, SE! DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL!
mini_marx said @ 3:56am GMT on 21st Jun
I cant stop staring at your nostril. I am sorry.
themightyblot said @ 4:18am GMT on 21st Jun
That's where the magic happens.
snowfox said @ 6:09am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2]
Is that where the coke goes?
Dissonant said @ 8:46am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Tried that, the carbonation hurt my sinuses.
themightyblot said @ 5:29pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
I've moved up to heroin. If Pulp Fiction has taught me anything, it's that snorting heroin looks like TONS of fun.
snowfox said @ 3:42am GMT on 22nd Jun
I learned that when you OD it is best to draw a dot on your chest to target the bigass adrenaline needle.
max_damage78 said @ 6:06pm GMT on 21st Jun
WE DORKS MUST STAND UNITED!
TheCooler said @ 2:59am GMT on 21st Jun
I don't have a suit...or a costume
Sarahbear said @ 6:07am GMT on 21st Jun
Get a pic of your head and cut it onto someone elses body!

I wanted this to be a fun/silly thing.... doesn't have to be real pix.
TheCooler said @ 3:10pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2]
Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us

QuickPost Quickpost this image to Myspace, Digg, Facebook, and others!


Very well then. i wanted to use that face and that tux so I resized nothing to block out the dude's curly hair
TheCooler said @ 3:11pm GMT on 21st Jun
Also, I am very drunk in that photo.
sua_sponte said @ 3:32am GMT on 22nd Jun
I want a pic of you giving head to my body.

On second thought forget the pic. I'll just take the head.
snowfox said @ 3:24am GMT on 21st Jun
You will just have to dress me up tomorrow and take a pic for me then. Tonight I must marinate! Also I am making cheesecake.

Do something with that, SE, I dare you.
CapnSilver said @ 3:51am GMT on 21st Jun
What are you marinating in?
Equinophobe said @ 4:20am GMT on 21st Jun
my thoughts exactly.
snowfox said @ 4:39am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
For the brisket:
* 1 cup red wine vinegar
* 1/2 cup olive oil
* 1/4 cup Worcestershire sauce
* 1/4 cup brown sugar
* 4 cloves garlic, minced
* 2 tablespoons paprika
* 1 tablespoon kosher salt
* 2 teaspoons black pepper
Combine all ingredients and mix until the sugar is completely dissolved. Marinate Brisket overnight. Discard marinade when done.

For the ribs:
* 1 cup cider vinegar
* 1 large orange
* 2 medium lemons
* 3 2-inch pieces of lemon peel
* 1 1/2 tablespoons brown sugar, dark
* 1 tablespoon lemon pepper
* 1 tablespoon black pepper
* 1 teaspoon Tabasco
* 1 teaspoon garlic powder
Juice the orange and lemons. Simmer on low heat until sugar dissolves. DO NOT boil. Marinate ribs overnight.
Navier-Strokes said @ 6:11am GMT on 21st Jun
I love you.
snowfox said @ 7:45am GMT on 21st Jun
This is just a shot in the dark but... I dunno... you wanna do something later?
Sarahbear said @ 7:48am GMT on 21st Jun
He may 'love you' but I Love ALL of you :d

snowfox said @ 7:55am GMT on 21st Jun
Hawt.
Sarahbear said @ 7:57am GMT on 21st Jun
@ first i thought the horse was biting the pussy

maybe just resting his head near it?
maryyugo said @ 8:37pm GMT on 21st Jun
eating it?
Bob LLama said @ 7:58am GMT on 21st Jun
Can I watch you love all of her?

Alex can vouch that I'm quite easy on the eyes...

Right...?
Bob LLama said @ 7:59am GMT on 21st Jun
Why does Sarah Jessica Parker hate cats?
Sarahbear said @ 8:04am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
The major question for me is why he has a female name?

Silent said @ 8:39pm GMT on 21st Jun
Getting upset with dudes stealing your name eh?
It's okay, I feel bad for Boderick though.
Navier-Strokes said @ 8:31am GMT on 21st Jun
All depends.
I'm in Cambridge, of the Massachusetts variety.
If nothing else, a lady who knows barbeque, programming,
and Picard deserves my accolades.
kishi said @ 4:58am GMT on 21st Jun
So, you're making cheesecake tonight, so no cheesecake until tomorrow?
snowfox said @ 7:40am GMT on 21st Jun
Why? Are you dropping by for my barbecue?
Sarahbear said @ 4:03am GMT on 23rd Jun
yumɯnʎ
faustsloki said @ 12:25pm GMT on 21st Jun
Cant belive I'm the first to post this......bend over, I'll give you somethingto marinate in.
utah said @ 3:39am GMT on 21st Jun
Next, can we post our favourite recipes? Top tips for home cleaning?

Anyone got any Hollywood goss to dish?
Aidentas said @ 3:57am GMT on 21st Jun
The recipe idea sounds like a good idea*.

*Not today. Not this week. Not during the summer.
theolypse said @ 4:04am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
The recent favorite recipes post got about a +30.
snowfox said @ 7:57am GMT on 21st Jun
I was out of the country for that one. Watchlisted!
monkeynuts said @ 9:13pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Hot Pr0n]
Photobucket
Home made ravioli stuffed with three cheeses, roast chicken and sausage in my sauce.

Photobucket
Sweet and sour meatballs

Photobucket
dumplings(these got fucked up pretty badly, never again will I attempt to make home made dumpling wrappers)

Photobucket
Angel food cake with whipped peanut butter frosting and milk chocolate shavings

Photobucket
Uncooked Coconut Chocolate chunk blondies

Photobucket
Roast Chicken breasts stuffed with herbs and two cheeses and wrapped in bacon

Photobucket
Crispy Chicken in a Sweet Chili honey sauce with Cilantro Lime Rice and Steamed Veggies

Photobucket
Duck A L'Orange with fresh mandarin oranges.


I have recipes...


I do a lot of my own cooking.


I have no home tips but if you put a drop of vanilla behind each ear you'll smell like a cookie all day


and I hear Madonna has close personal ties to Cthulu
he's heavy into third world adoption these days.

theolypse said @ 9:49pm GMT on 21st Jun
Man. No wonder you're fat. My saliva glands are cramping.
monkeynuts said @ 10:00pm GMT on 21st Jun
Thank you?
monkeynuts said @ 10:02pm GMT on 21st Jun
Surprisingly enough once I started cooking most of my own food I've been losing a bunch of weight.

The fact that I started exercising daily again doesn't hurt either I'm sure.
theolypse said @ 7:20pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I have to come clean.

I just assumed you were fat because you're in a wheelchair.

On a more serious note, cooking good food, even if it's rich, is a hell of a lot better than eating processed and refined food. The people who can spike their blood sugar levels-- by eating fast-digesting foods-- with impunity only can because of a combination of excessive metabolic function and massive daily calorie use. That's a one-in-a-thousand pairing at best.

And I am genuinely glad to hear you've increased your activity level.
monkeynuts said @ 12:59am GMT on 23rd Jun
There's a real huge cap on the different kinds of cardiovascular exercises I can do. I can swim, I have a handbike and recently when I weight lift I've been doing supersets and throwing a medicine ball around outside when I have someone to work out with(working out in the Florida sun helps too).
If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them.
I really started cooking out of boredom and a marathon session of watching the first and second season of Top Chef(there may have been some marijuana involved). I was also kind of tired of eating steak and potatoes most nights.

At one point I was super active, but I fucked up my wrist somehow and it's still not really healed right, and some shit happened and it made not want to work out, so I didn't.
but now I do
so uh, yeah

yay?
I guess?
I'm actually kind of embarrassed by my rant at this point.



ckfahrenheit said @ 2:15am GMT on 23rd Jun
YAY
shiney things said @ 2:15am GMT on 22nd Jun
Lets be friends! And by friends I mean, can I come over and you cook me food?
monkeynuts said @ 7:44am GMT on 22nd Jun
I mean we can be friends, but don't you live in texas?
ckfahrenheit said @ 7:34am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
this post is officially out of control
monkeynuts said @ 7:42am GMT on 22nd Jun
Because of food?
sua_sponte said @ 4:20am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
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theolypse said @ 6:50pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Grampy Bone say you an' you need to diet.
Tang said @ 5:15am GMT on 21st Jun
camera is in the shop and has been for 3 weeks :-(

so i had to improvise!!!!

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Sarahbear said @ 6:06am GMT on 21st Jun
Ha this is what i thought ppl might do if they felt too lazy to take funny pics... thats why I put Your face here
hildeaux said @ 7:14am GMT on 21st Jun
oh my god what
Sarahbear said @ 7:17am GMT on 21st Jun
what... what?
Tang said @ 8:18am GMT on 21st Jun
tonight you!
both of you!
and my creepy cartoon head

:D
sorry!
zsander said @ 6:29pm GMT on 21st Jun
Separated at birth!
leswilkerson said @ 5:23am GMT on 21st Jun
3bop said @ 5:57am GMT on 21st Jun
I hoping that she'd demolish that set.
MmmFiber said @ 9:30am GMT on 21st Jun
I hoping that you would learn english.
nik said @ 7:34pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
I hopping on one leg for love of language of English.
revchoppy said @ 11:58pm GMT on 21st Jun
That made me go listen to the whole album again. I forgot how much those guys rule.
maryyugo said @ 5:23am GMT on 21st Jun
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KropperPrime said @ 5:25am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:-2]
4chan is that way ----> here
Dioxin said @ 5:39am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
what nonsense
Sarahbear said @ 5:55am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1]
Thanks for the help. *rolls eyes*

I expected alot of strange photoshops or wierd pictures from most people, then maybe a few promish outfits or costumes.
zsander said @ 7:02am GMT on 22nd Jun
It's been awhile since my high school and prom-era days, but so far it looks like a reasonable facsimile of the real thing: Cliques, flirtation, jokes, insults, backbiting, and snarkery. All we need is 80s and 90s music by a local DJ and/or garage band. Thank you for the best SE party ever :D
Coulter said @ 5:39am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
kishi said @ 5:47am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
I suspect that dude knows how to party.
NinjasAreMammalsToo said @ 8:43am GMT on 21st Jun
...or at the very least rape and pillage your town.
Coulter said @ 9:23am GMT on 21st Jun
I haven't pillaged in years...
MmmFiber said @ 9:24am GMT on 21st Jun
I'm quite sure his hat is a farce.
Coulter said @ 9:28am GMT on 21st Jun
I'll have you know that "hat" is the finest Mexican knock-off viking helmet I've ever owned.
daffyduck said @ 12:04am GMT on 23rd Jun
From what I've read, vikings didn't have horned helmets. That's a Hollywood thing. The Gauls did wear them, though, and they were great at drinking and looting, too.
Lord of the Barnyard said @ 6:08pm GMT on 21st Jun
it appears that you have crushed that unopened beer can, impressive.
hippoh said @ 2:23am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Techo Viking!

Caffeine said @ 6:04am GMT on 21st Jun
Caffeine said @ 6:07am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:5]
Defiance.Falcon said @ 7:10am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
For that touch of class and sophistication.
MmmFiber said @ 9:16am GMT on 21st Jun
Its late and I found that hilarious.
CerealKiller said @ 8:55pm GMT on 21st Jun
This needs a monocle.
Rainbow Randolf said @ 6:25am GMT on 22nd Jun
And one of those...things.
Ronin.ca said @ 6:55am GMT on 21st Jun
Sadly all my pics are of me and my son or me and my wife and my son.. and while I trust and love each and every one of you like the halfwitted tards that you are... there are limits...
Sarahbear said @ 7:13am GMT on 21st Jun
cut their faces out and put rabbit heads!
foobar said @ 7:33am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Saying that sort of thing on the internets can only lead to tears.
Sarahbear said @ 7:43am GMT on 21st Jun
Well they'll cry probably if you do it with their actual heads, but just in photoshop they don't even have to know.... shhhh.
max_damage78 said @ 6:13pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2 WTF]
When I was a kid, my parents didn't want my sister or I to use the word "fart" or any variation there of, so they insisted we refer to farts as "bunnies".

This lead to a whole SERIES of issues for me growing up, including what all that chocolate REALLY was at Easter......
Ronin.ca said @ 8:04am GMT on 21st Jun
wise.
monkeynuts said @ 7:04am GMT on 21st Jun
I think this was a great idea, and am sorry I don't have an entry.
For the record I'm 6'8 250lbs mostly wheelchair bound and typically sport a pink mohawk. I am quite suitable for proms.
Sarahbear said @ 7:13am GMT on 21st Jun
Oh pink mohawk? If you're serious then that's awesome!
monkeynuts said @ 7:37am GMT on 21st Jun
unfortunately these days it's back to black. Having to find a job with the rest of the world is difficult enough with the mohawk.
*sniffle*
I miss my pink hair.
snowfox said @ 7:42am GMT on 21st Jun
Little bear, this is monkeynuts. He used to be my troll. That grew tiresome. Now we just jerk eachother off until one of us gets too tired to move. Then we pass out. Lather, rise, repeat.
Sarahbear said @ 7:59am GMT on 21st Jun
I can haz lather, rise, repeat?
monkeynuts said @ 8:12am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
oh god no more for one day please.



I'm all chaffed.
monkeynuts said @ 8:00am GMT on 21st Jun
I feel strangely honored that you may have at one point considered me your personal troll.


snowfox said @ 8:53am GMT on 21st Jun
You were more than that, obviously. I merely meant that all our interactions at one point were you calling me a slut or something to that effect.
Fenny said @ 2:09pm GMT on 21st Jun
Ahhh, foreplay.
monkeynuts said @ 2:45pm GMT on 21st Jun
I called you a slut?
I find that unbelieveable. I'm sure I've called you a number of untrue and offensive things, but usually I reserve slut for special someones.
Not that you're not special Snowfox



you're just not "slut" special...


<3
snowfox said @ 3:23pm GMT on 21st Jun
Awww, you so have =) I love you too.
willrogers said @ 8:13am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Do you travel via fargate to Pluto?
Dissonant said @ 8:49am GMT on 21st Jun
+1 Funderrated
monkeynuts said @ 2:44pm GMT on 21st Jun
why would I want to go somewhere that isn't a planet?
willrogers said @ 1:14am GMT on 22nd Jun
It's an Aqua Teen Hunger Force allusion.
Mori said @ 7:08am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:3]


Shall we shag now, or shall we shag later?
Bodnoirbabe said @ 6:46pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2]
To add to that, I was his date! Voila!



And we shagged later.
Mori said @ 6:48pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
It was awesome.
zsander said @ 7:38pm GMT on 21st Jun
It wasn't Shagadelic...?
cb361 said @ 7:52pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
You're shagadelic, bodnoirbaby!
Barnabas_Truman said @ 7:14am GMT on 21st Jun
I think I'll wait until my shiny new bolo tie arrives.
ckfahrenheit said @ 7:39am GMT on 21st Jun
and fap and fap and fap and fap and fap and fap
balzac said @ 8:07am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
I have no shame, and yet I am shamed.

I skipped my prom to go to Anime Central in Rosemont IL. I was wearing one of these two things.
Photobucket

Photobucket

Probably minus the naruto vest.

I have no shame, and yet I must be shamed.
balzac said @ 8:10am GMT on 21st Jun
But, to be fair, I got laid every year at that con.

By my internet girlfriend.
Sarahbear said @ 8:14am GMT on 21st Jun
Well aren't you fucking adorable? Remind me of that cute nerdy guy in all those comedies lately, Michael Cera.

I am not too knowlegable about that stuff, so Where's Waldo? comes to mind w/the second outfit!
balzac said @ 8:20am GMT on 21st Jun
Being compared to michael cera is both a compliment and an insult :P

And yes. The original joke was that I wore the waldo outfit and then tried to photobomb as many pictures as I could, then find myself later on the convention albums.
balzac said @ 8:37am GMT on 21st Jun
these are also 4-5 years old.
benjamander said @ 11:44am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
why'd you post a picture of a hallway? Is that you holding the shopping bag with the tail?
steele.ero said @ 4:19pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Your Waldo no Jutsu is most impressive. Have you considered joining up with anbu? We get pirates!

balzac said @ 7:28pm GMT on 21st Jun
You do realize that most naruto fans would consider you a traitor and eat your eyes for such an offense? They take the "pirates vs. ninjas" thing very seriously at anime cons.
steele.ero said @ 11:10pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
::motorboats::

huh?
balzac said @ 11:24pm GMT on 21st Jun
...Carry on.
balzac said @ 7:29pm GMT on 21st Jun
It is my theory that nobody ever TRULY stops looking for waldo.
zsander said @ 7:45am GMT on 22nd Jun
Za Warudo!
cb361 said @ 8:20am GMT on 21st Jun
If we had them in this country, I wouldn't have gone. I didn't go to my University graduation thing, or the yearly company Christmas parties either. Seems to work out best for me.
Sarahbear said @ 8:26am GMT on 21st Jun
Well I went to two proms so that I could help my gay friend get in both times. We came in a group of 4 but his date came in w/the other girl... Plus I have a clothing "addiction" so I liked making my dress. :D

I get why ppl wouldn't go too though.... the SE Prom is whatever you (or anyone else) want it to be. Post something completley anti-prom if you want.
willrogers said @ 8:31am GMT on 21st Jun
Please tell us you had sex with the other girl in that group and have pics of it.
Sarahbear said @ 8:35am GMT on 21st Jun
HAHAHAH those aren't pix i'd be willing to leak....

willrogers said @ 9:41am GMT on 21st Jun
But you're fucking hot so I'm sure everyone would appreciate them.

Contribute to the community.
Sarahbear said @ 11:33am GMT on 21st Jun
This sounds like a TRICK!
max_damage78 said @ 6:16pm GMT on 21st Jun
It's not. No really!

And we all promise not to share them with ANYONE else, right people?
Chop-Logik said @ 5:11am GMT on 22nd Jun
Not anyone, just everyone.
cb361 said @ 1:26pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
Here's one I don't think I've posted on SE before.



I quite liked my Picasso tie, but on the strength of this photo I've been reliably advised that instead of wearing it to job interviews, I should bury it in quicklime on a moonless night.
Silent said @ 2:02pm GMT on 21st Jun
I'm not modding you, I am modding the tie.
Just wanted this clear.
cb361 said @ 2:16pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Hot Pr0n]


My tie. Also, my six-year old mobile phone (which I resprayed), a bottle of walnut oil (supposed to be good for your heart), squeezable foam lemon (some marketing gimick) and some tissues (hey, I get lonely).
Silent said @ 3:03pm GMT on 21st Jun
I see your plan
The walnut oil is for lube, the phone for cheesy music.. YOU FAPPED TO THE TIE.
.. not that I can blame you.
cb361 said @ 3:18pm GMT on 21st Jun
Gullty as charged.
EPT said @ 3:06pm GMT on 21st Jun
Walnut oil? You are a high-class wanker!
cb361 said @ 3:18pm GMT on 21st Jun
Hey, melons every night get expensive!
Sarahbear said @ 4:43pm GMT on 21st Jun
That tie does kick ass :D
cb361 said @ 6:17pm GMT on 21st Jun
Thanks, but its now been safely relegated to non-job-interview situations - and all the time I thought it was my lack of experience and social skills that were holding me back. Perhaps I should offer it as a prize in a mafia game.
snowfox said @ 5:58pm GMT on 21st Jun
You look like a bureaucrat.
cb361 said @ 6:14pm GMT on 21st Jun
That was the intention. Normally I'm jeans and t-shirt for work - and they aren't even very good jeans and t-shirts - but I wanted a formal photo so I dressed up and sneaked into the office one weekend, and put the camera on self-timer. That's the kind of thing you have to do when you're an antisocial sob ;-)
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 11:29pm GMT on 21st Jun
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this is the last one i do
Dissonant said @ 8:50am GMT on 21st Jun
^--- camera-shy (and trust me, you are all grateful)

I did go stag to my prom, one of the girls there (oddly enough, one of the ones I'd had a crush on in grade school) was kind enough to stand by me for a picture. I never ended up picking it up though.
Dissonant said @ 8:55am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Alright, alright...

papango said @ 9:03am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 WTF]
Nice t-shirt.



Dissonant said @ 9:15am GMT on 21st Jun
I want to post a photo, but there is exactly one digital picture of me in existence and I think I look awful in it. I have no camera so there you have it.
papango said @ 9:17am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
I just wanted to post this photo. It really realtes to nothing, it just needs to be out there.
Spyike said @ 11:16am GMT on 21st Jun
Tamp?
ComposerNate said @ 11:26am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Spyike said @ 2:55pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Everytime I see that I give it Shaye Saint John's face and voice in my head.
papango said @ 10:19am GMT on 22nd Jun
My heart says 'tamp', but my head says 'somebody's maths teacher'.
Dissonant said @ 9:22am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2 Underrated]
ok, fuck it, here you are.

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I somehow manage to look a little better than this, usually. Shaving would have helped.
cb361 said @ 1:28pm GMT on 21st Jun
Oooh, huggable.

assbastard said @ 9:04am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:3 Underrated]


This is as close to dressed up that you're going to get from me. From 2002 or thereabouts. Add a beard and about 100lbs and you've got me from today.
monkeynuts said @ 4:53pm GMT on 21st Jun
you would look awesome with some pirate facial hair man.


and yes I know I would look awesome without the wheelchair...


Believe me

I know.
badgerbaiter said @ 5:19pm GMT on 21st Jun
Dude,
Dont hog all the jokes.....

You do the set up and leave the punchline to someone else, then we all get some....
monkeynuts said @ 5:55pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
advanced trolling 101: The Troll Deconstructed
assbastard said @ 11:37pm GMT on 21st Jun
Just how piratey are we talkin' here?
monkeynuts said @ 7:30am GMT on 22nd Jun
think less black beard and more dashing buccaneer
assbastard said @ 7:43am GMT on 22nd Jun
Advice taken to heart. I tried trimming the beard I have now into the buccaneer but got the moustache a little too close to The Hitler for comfort, so I just kept the goatee and reasonably long sideburns. I'll grow it out some and see what I can come up with in a week or two.
monkeynuts said @ 7:50am GMT on 22nd Jun
+1 Errol Flynn
assbastard said @ 7:52am GMT on 22nd Jun
Gotta go with the classics.
sua_sponte said @ 7:51pm GMT on 21st Jun
Your beard weighs 100 pounds? Holy fuck, man, how long is it?
assbastard said @ 11:17pm GMT on 21st Jun
It's more dense than long.
assbastard said @ 1:11am GMT on 22nd Jun
Oh hey, here's another one:



I was hosting a late night talk show in college, and this was the first episode after 9/11, and we had a backdrop of NYC (despite being in LA), so we (tastefully!) pinned a flag over the twin towers. Eventually, the flag ended up over my co-host's chest, and voila, the picture you have here.
MmmFiber said @ 9:20am GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Something tells me that I dont want to see what fellow SE people look like or anyone I meet on the net for that matter. I think its for the same reason that I dont tell the creepy guy with the van my real name.
zsander said @ 6:31pm GMT on 21st Jun
But we've got better candy here...
devilsad said @ 10:23pm GMT on 21st Jun
Unless you're a little girl, you shouldn't be so scared...



Oh look, free skittles!
Sarahbear said @ 1:38am GMT on 23rd Jun
too bad I don't like skittles
kang said @ 11:54am GMT on 21st Jun
I like the SE picture posts. It's nice to know what people look like. And also for extortion.
zsander said @ 6:20pm GMT on 21st Jun
Next post: SEcrets, where we all lie about our yearly income, penis size, and attempt to come up with the worst possible false blackmail material!
one_inch said @ 12:22pm GMT on 21st Jun
Sarahbear said @ 4:44pm GMT on 21st Jun
Ha I'm making penis pops for my sisters bachelorette...
f00m@nB@r said @ 7:30pm GMT on 21st Jun
if you need a hand, my penis pops quite well.
zsander said @ 7:44pm GMT on 21st Jun
See your urologist pronto
Vampire_X said @ 12:39pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:4 Interesting]
nbob said @ 12:41pm GMT on 21st Jun
Is this right before you were tazered?
lsdbeta said @ 2:07pm GMT on 21st Jun
you no longer look like a hot chick =/
snowfox said @ 5:58pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
This photo just made him 100% more fuckable. And I was already willing to do him.
lsdbeta said @ 4:53am GMT on 22nd Jun
Fuck you, guys with long hair rock!
Rainbow Randolf said @ 6:05am GMT on 22nd Jun
Where are all these women who would enjoy my flowing locks?
zsander said @ 10:39am GMT on 22nd Jun
I'll take that as a compliment!
lsdbeta said @ 3:09pm GMT on 22nd Jun
That's some fine hair son. Lose the braids and you'll be right.
sua_sponte said @ 8:13pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Nah, the braids are for leverage when he's throating some other guy's wang.
zsander said @ 10:11pm GMT on 22nd Jun
You'll have to share more of your insight; sounds like you've got some useful information already.
sua_sponte said @ 12:29am GMT on 23rd Jun
Nah, just recognize a good set of handlebars when I see one.
zsander said @ 1:06am GMT on 23rd Jun
Ah, good, then I'm quite happy for you and your man.
lsdbeta said @ 2:42am GMT on 23rd Jun
pssst, i think he's talking about you...
zsander said @ 3:04am GMT on 23rd Jun
Well, if his personal prior experiences have given him some knowhow on giving the best head, then more power to him!
sua_sponte said @ 4:19am GMT on 23rd Jun
You'd be less talkative with my balls on your chin, honey...
zsander said @ 5:29am GMT on 23rd Jun
Well, as long as your boyfriend doesn't mind. There's precious little of you there to share as-is :)
Kryptoknight said @ 5:49am GMT on 23rd Jun
Legolas?
EPT said @ 2:15pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Was this just after you'd uttered the words "Does Barry Manilow know you raid his wardrobe?"?
zsander said @ 6:08pm GMT on 21st Jun
Parkour?
GordonGuano said @ 9:03pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2 Funny]
No, butter.
donnie said @ 2:46pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I can't believe it.
zsander said @ 1:38am GMT on 23rd Jun
HABEEB IT.
Transfer said @ 2:08am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
TWINKIE HOUSE!
Transfer said @ 2:49pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
I'll play. Our highschool had a mass media department, and I was in charge of the video yearbook project. But I still had to churn out a certain amount of film for the 5th period TV report. So I took a video camera to prom and spent the entire time behind the lens. I don't think I have any photos of me from that night. This year is my 10 year reunion.

Here's the most recent picture I could find:


I'm on the far left, we have a Zombie Social club in Tampa called the Deadite Empire. That's from one of the events last fall.


And again me on the left having a "Walrus Battle" with my friend Dustin. Please note the look of disgust on the Asian woman in the background as we rape her culture with Walrus and Seal grunts.
Fenny said @ 5:20pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Are you related to Wayne Knight?
Transfer said @ 6:18pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
No... and should I feel insulted before I google that... ah... yes, I should...

*goes on diet*
Fenny said @ 6:32pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Heyyyy, wasn't meant as insulting! ;) Spectacles/hair = similarities!
Transfer said @ 7:41pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:2 Underrated]
Oh all right then. He's a good actor, I'll leave it at that. As for my hair, it's longer now and I have a full beard again, but I might be shaving that soon. Whenever I get a haircut people I've known for years stop recognizing me until I talk. Yet no matter what my hair/beard state I get people coming up to me and telling me I look like someone they know or someone famous. That was the first time I got the guy from Seinfeld/Jurassic Park though...

Two more to demonstrate the mutability of my hair folicles:



Silent said @ 7:56pm GMT on 22nd Jun
And what dastardly deeds do you have for us this day dear Doctor?
Transfer said @ 8:11pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I desire a dozen donuts, don't delay!
Silent said @ 8:14pm GMT on 22nd Jun
At a dash, a dozen deliveryboys of the damned will drop off a dozen donuts of delectable design to your door!
Transfer said @ 8:32pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Damned decent my decadent and devilish droog. I shall devour them with deviled eggs and a drought of delicious dew.
Silent said @ 8:35pm GMT on 22nd Jun
*doffs his bowler*
arrowhen said @ 2:36pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
(Psst... "Derby" would have been close enough and still kept the alliteration going.)
Silent said @ 2:37pm GMT on 23rd Jun
(Thanks, I wracked by brain for a hat with D but gave up secure in the knowledge I was comment #500)
Transfer said @ 5:34pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Doh!
Silent said @ 5:52pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Doubly.
Transfer said @ 7:51pm GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Decent descent down dangerous dirigible-detritus strewn downs, my dear. Doubt not the deeply delighted depth of desire I deem to denigrate whilst with desire and defenestration I dip my derby in dour decline. Good day!
arrowhen said @ 1:06am GMT on 24th Jun
Daaaayyyyyyum!
taiga said @ 4:35pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2]


Me on the right, in the red. Not exactly representative of my prom outfit from years past, but that was a pirate costume. This is a sky hussar.
Navier-Strokes said @ 11:37pm GMT on 21st Jun
Did you hit it?
beerboy said @ 5:31pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Heh, I skipped prom to go on vacation, This was taken the day of prom though.


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Taken in Grand Cayman, 2003. No idea what's up with the guy behind me though.




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More recent pic, about 3 months ago, slightly out of shape and pissed of at my friends girl insisting on having a record of me dressing nicely for something.
beerboy said @ 5:33pm GMT on 21st Jun
Damn, how the hell do I get rid of that "post to" crap... thought I edited that out, oh well.
sua_sponte said @ 8:30pm GMT on 21st Jun
In that first pic it looks like you're bending over just enough for the older guy behind you to give you a high hard one, if you know what I mean.
theolypse said @ 2:30pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Hence the grin.
faustsloki said @ 6:46pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Most recent photo. Me getting my 30th bday spankings. And yes, they are using a guitar for the spanking, until it shattered on the 12th spank.



cb361 said @ 7:49pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Bend over...

oh, you already are.
sua_sponte said @ 11:57pm GMT on 21st Jun
Looks more like you're trying to shit a guitar...
kang said @ 9:41pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:2]
My son's birthday last year. I'm the tall one.



I don't look much like my clone brothers.

kishi said @ 9:51pm GMT on 21st Jun
For once, I feel bad that I voted for Kodos.
donnie said @ 10:19pm GMT on 21st Jun
I don't know, man...you look a pretty convincing Jango Fett.
Fr3nZy said @ 4:59pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
arent you a little tall for a clone trooper?
theolypse said @ 9:51pm GMT on 21st Jun
So... the secret to the internet is to play to people's vanity.
kang said @ 10:05pm GMT on 21st Jun
Secret #2 is don't underestimate the user's vanity.

Secret #1 is be cynical!
afrasr said @ 10:02pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:3 Underrated]
Photobucket

Thats me, taken last night, one on the right is my roomie, one on the left is Lonnie :)

It`s good to be me
kang said @ 10:07pm GMT on 21st Jun
Of course it's good to be Ron Jeremy - duh!
revchoppy said @ 4:32am GMT on 22nd Jun
Note to Zsander: This is how it's done.
lsdbeta said @ 4:55am GMT on 22nd Jun
Agreed.
zsander said @ 10:47am GMT on 22nd Jun
You're absolutely right; I should smile more often when photographed. :)
lsdbeta said @ 2:59pm GMT on 22nd Jun
yep. that was it.
zsander said @ 10:31pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I'd try standing by women taller than me, but recruiting from the Russian Women's Olympic Basketball Team is a dodgy and fearful prospect---anyone with a bigger adam's apple than mine is a non-starter. :P
lsdbeta said @ 4:59am GMT on 22nd Jun
Ahahaha, afrasr! Schooling the kids in everything since 2002.

Go you good thing!
devilsad said @ 10:56pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:4 Insightful]
Not really a prom pic, but here's me getting married (on the right!!)

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I posted my pic here once before, a loong long time ago in a What does SE look like post. I think I was drunk and it was almost porn. Fortunately it got deleted before anyone saved it.. wait.. is that rustling outside in the trees? must be the wind...
balzac said @ 11:32pm GMT on 21st Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
I notice your lady friend wasn't comfortable wearing a white dress. Good show, matey.
devilsad said @ 10:31pm GMT on 25th Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Life advice #675: NEVER marry a girl who doesn't want to do it with you just as much as you want to do it with her...
Fenny said @ 11:53pm GMT on 25th Jun
Indeed.
manoreason said @ 3:19am GMT on 22nd Jun
Is she missing her left hand?
kang said @ 4:02am GMT on 22nd Jun
devilhappy!
Fenny said @ 11:14am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Underrated]
I'l check my archives;)
Fenny said @ 3:10pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Sadly, it appears to be lacking! I'll have to check my old hard drives...
Caffysue said @ 12:18am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:5 Classy Pr0n]
I know I'm a little late to the party, but here goes...
Nurse Cathy

I've been a lurker since high school, but my husband comments/posts occasionally.
Transfer said @ 12:27am GMT on 22nd Jun
Hawt. Who's the lucky Se'r?
Caffysue said @ 1:02am GMT on 22nd Jun
My husband is Chrix. This is the two of us on beach in Bali, Indonesia. Absolutely amazing, by the way!
Bali Beach photo

Chrix said @ 4:07am GMT on 22nd Jun
That guy looks like a freakin' loser. You should bag him and go with me.
Tang said @ 5:09am GMT on 22nd Jun
she only likes you because you sparkle just above your heart a little
Chrix said @ 5:44am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
That's a birth defect and I ask you kindly not to bring attention to it. I'm very sensitive.
monkeynuts said @ 7:29am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:2 Funny]
what are you 1/156th Twilight Vampire?
Fenny said @ 10:16am GMT on 22nd Jun
Now that's Classy Pr0n!
Caffysue said @ 2:03pm GMT on 22nd Jun
There's plenty more where that came from! And since this was labeled a Pr0n thread I'm semi-tempted to post others....but I doubt the man would be happy with that.
mrcucumber said @ 2:31pm GMT on 22nd Jun
But we would be very happy. Your loyalties must always be with se, so.......

Post away!!!
Sarahbear said @ 3:00pm GMT on 22nd Jun
OHHH DO SHARE! :*
Transfer said @ 9:15pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Psst. If you show more, maybe she will...

/creepy internet guy.
Fenny said @ 4:14pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I'd say yes, post more! But you need to keep the hubby happy too :)
Transfer said @ 6:15pm GMT on 22nd Jun
He's got her already, at least he can see it in his heart to share digital reflections of what he gets to come home to at night.

*swallows sadness*
Fenny said @ 7:28pm GMT on 22nd Jun
So you would think :(
Transfer said @ 7:32pm GMT on 22nd Jun
It's enough to drive me to drink.
Silent said @ 7:41pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Don't let that drive you to drink, let your designated driver do it instead.
Caffysue said @ 10:15pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
Maybe more pictures later, like when there's a post dedicated to latex fetishes. ;)
Transfer said @ 10:36pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Oh shit! Sarahbear, are you listening?
Sarahbear said @ 1:33am GMT on 23rd Jun
Well as a matter of fact I *do* have vinyl and latex clothes.....
Transfer said @ 1:38am GMT on 23rd Jun
I love it when a plan comes together!
Caffysue said @ 1:43am GMT on 23rd Jun
Well, vinyl isn't my thing, but I *love* a nice rubber dress. Perhaps we're a match made in SE heaven.
Transfer said @ 2:07am GMT on 23rd Jun
I believe I speak for all of us single lonely nerds when I say, "ZOMG DO IT."
kishi said @ 2:10am GMT on 23rd Jun
What, like you have to be single and lonely to want to see that?
Transfer said @ 2:19am GMT on 23rd Jun
Amended: I believe I speak for all of Sensible Erection.

So let it be written, so let it be done.
donnie said @ 3:30am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
♬ To kill the first born pharaoh's son ♬
revchoppy said @ 3:08pm GMT on 3rd Jul
And that, right there, negates all the dumb shit that donnie has ever said in his life.
ckfahrenheit said @ 2:26am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
*HEAD ASPLODE*
Fenny said @ 7:17am GMT on 23rd Jun
OOhhh, I see what you did there :D
Transfer said @ 2:35pm GMT on 27th Jun [Score:1 Funny]
http://sensibleerection.com/entry.php/76572

Dooo it.
Fenny said @ 3:13pm GMT on 27th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
You remembered! :D
Sarahbear said @ 3:00pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
+ Interesting = + Hot Pr0n
shiney things said @ 1:00am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:3 Interesting]
I was just looking at my actual prom photos at my mom's house, but I don't have a digital copy. Instead, this:

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sanepride said @ 1:45am GMT on 22nd Jun
The late St. Marck said more than once "SE is whatever you make it"

So it seems to be made here into something resembling Facebook.
Transfer said @ 3:57am GMT on 22nd Jun
Where did Marck go? Who's running this madhouse now anyway?
sanepride said @ 4:20am GMT on 22nd Jun
Ain't you?
Chop-Logik said @ 5:10am GMT on 22nd Jun
Wait, you aren't?
leezurd said @ 5:52am GMT on 22nd Jun
Why are you asking him?

Aren't you?
Transfer said @ 12:57pm GMT on 22nd Jun
OOOoooh shhiiiiiiiit!
Silent said @ 12:59pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Hold up lads, I've got an idea..
TheCooler said @ 1:27pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Don't look at me!
Silent said @ 1:29pm GMT on 22nd Jun
It's okay, we don't have to look at TheCooler for my plan to work, he just needs to be able to count to two times infinity.
TheCooler said @ 1:58pm GMT on 22nd Jun
What if i get tired?
Silent said @ 2:02pm GMT on 22nd Jun
It's okay, I had the foresight to clone you.
Soshi_Aroso said @ 3:03am GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:2]
Sure, why not? I'm on the left.



Suitably fancy?
arrowhen said @ 2:28pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
I got all dressed up (sans pants) just for you:

Silent said @ 2:50pm GMT on 22nd Jun
You should have a party and invite no one, that'll show those bastards!
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 8:43pm GMT on 22nd Jun
glad you cleaned up the drums before you took the picture
arrowhen said @ 2:34pm GMT on 23rd Jun
Drums get dirty?
Sarahbear said @ 10:00pm GMT on 22nd Jun
VEERY NICE. :D

I dig the beard + suit...
monkeynuts said @ 2:32pm GMT on 23rd Jun
you look like a way less douchey Kevin Smith.
Spyike said @ 4:07pm GMT on 22nd Jun
What have I learned from all of this? SE is full of hot women and geeks.

I'm home.
TheCooler said @ 4:21pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Can I be a hot woman?
Spyike said @ 8:57pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Well we do need to sure up the odds. Quick put a dress on and we'll take you for a test run...
TheCooler said @ 8:15am GMT on 23rd Jun
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TheCooler said @ 8:16am GMT on 23rd Jun
Mind the goatee, don't want to get anything in it.
Silent said @ 4:38pm GMT on 22nd Jun
For next years prom we need a better band, the drummer keeps missing his beat, the guitarist can only play a solo if he gets a do-over and the vocalist is equally good at what ever song he performs, the only propblem is he murders them all.
We definitely need a higher female aspect in the female to male ratio as this is a weiner-fest and though some of us dudes would look good in a dress aint gonna help at all.
Finally we need some form of play-pen for the politics, we're here to get drunk and have a quick fumble with that boy/girl/mascot you've been eyeing up for the past two years and never had the nerve to talk to.
Atleast no one passed out, that's all I can say.
TheCooler said @ 5:08pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I sometimes wonder what a SE convention would be like. Horrifying yet wonderful all at the same time
Silent said @ 5:21pm GMT on 22nd Jun
I know, I want to arrange an SE Uk meet but Se'ers freak me out.
Fenny said @ 5:28pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Silent said @ 5:30pm GMT on 22nd Jun
SEE WHAT I AM SAYING!
Fenny said @ 5:32pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Informative]
Silent said @ 5:37pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
I live in mortal fear of you Fenny.
Good thing you don't know who I am...
My name is Inigo Montoya.
Martin Q. Blank said @ 6:07pm GMT on 22nd Jun
It can't have been I who killed your father, I'm just here for a reunion.
Silent said @ 6:16pm GMT on 22nd Jun
Oh.. okay... maybe it was Luke Skywalker.
sua_sponte said @ 4:31am GMT on 23rd Jun
Silent... I AM YOUR FATHER
Silent said @ 9:00am GMT on 23rd Jun
Thank christ for that, the guy who raised me was a freak.
monkeynuts said @ 1:04am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
We should make a chart of who's making out with who
who's fighting who
who's setting stuff on fire
who's pulling up skirts trying to find dickgirls
shit like that
being funny
I think it could be funny anyway...
-_- said @ 5:19pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:5 Funny]
Best Night EVAH!
themanwhoeatslettus said @ 1:10am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Interesting]
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sua_sponte said @ 4:49am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
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Sorry, had a little outbreak that day...
drd69 said @ 10:48pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Underrated]

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Fenny said @ 3:35pm GMT on 23rd Jun
It's curtains for you.
MurphyLawless said @ 11:05pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Tis me....hey what is everybody laughing at?

monkeynuts said @ 2:33pm GMT on 23rd Jun
it's your hat.
Jewbacchus said @ 11:32pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:2]
balzac said @ 11:50pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:2]
..Completely unsurprising. Like a jewish wookie roman god of wine.

Even have a little bit of the architecture in there.
Jewbacchus said @ 11:53pm GMT on 22nd Jun [Score:1 Funny]
monkeynuts said @ 12:46am GMT on 23rd Jun
Because there's no +1 made of gold
kishi said @ 12:02am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
Oh, shit- Batman's hiding in your jacket.
Sarahbear said @ 2:59am GMT on 23rd Jun [Score:2 Funny]

CLASS OF SE 09!
TheCooler said @ 4:15am GMT on 23rd Jun
Awww left out again
Transfer said @ 4:19am GMT on 23rd Jun
Woot TMNT FTW. And somehow I end up in there twice! Yay paradox!
Fenny said @ 5:15pm GMT on 25th Jun
Trala-la-la.
Silent said @ 5:18pm GMT on 25th Jun
Oh hai fenny, you found a snuggle buddy yet?
I got a friend you might be interested in, he's weird.. and would make a good victim.. er.. companion..
Fenny said @ 5:46pm GMT on 25th Jun
O'Hai t'you! I have a reasonable amount of snuggle bunnys and buddys at the moment, but thanks for asking! Are you pimping now, or just trying to create a distraction ;)
Silent said @ 5:52pm GMT on 25th Jun [Score:1 Funny]
I am just living in constant fear. :D
Fenny said @ 5:57pm GMT on 25th Jun
If you don't see an ice cream van following you down the street , you'll be fine :)
Silent said @ 6:06pm GMT on 25th Jun
I am paranoid, that police car might have ice cream in the back...
Fenny said @ 6:13pm GMT on 25th Jun
Nah, just half a lemon glazed donut , oohh a taser, some handcuffs and... no, now you're definitely being paranoid!
Silent said @ 6:47pm GMT on 25th Jun [Score:1 Informative]
This is why I never break the law, infact I carry a lawyer in my pocket to make sure the police never have reason to stop me.
Don't tase me old chap!
Naruki said @ 3:24am GMT on 26th Jun
A lawyer, hey? Darn, and here I thought you were just happy to see me.

That is, if you don't mind my saying, quite a big lawyer you've got there. I might add that it looks like law is hard, um, work.
Silent said @ 6:38pm GMT on 26th Jun [Score:1 Funny]
Aww.. I am always happy to see you Naruki... wait we shouldn't start this, it starts with a misunderstanding, three months down the line I'm curled up in a court of law, rocking back and forth while the prosecution hands me a stretch-armstrong and says "Show us where the bad man touched you" and when I put Armstrong into a knot, everyone will shudder...
Naruki said @ 3:26am GMT on 26th Jun [Score:1 Informative]
There is an ice cream truck that comes flying past my apartment building on Sundays blaring what sounds like Japanese bluegrass music. He drives so fast I have concluded he can't be looking for customers. He's probably looking for Silent.
DarkShadowRavenDragonGrrl69 said @ 11:30pm GMT on 25th Jun
"(I figured hoped ppl would post pr0n even if I "forbade" it... I even classified the entry as PRON in hopes that someone will get brave!)"

...says the suicide girl.
Sarahbear said @ 12:21am GMT on 26th Jun
ha we'll im not one actually

but who doesn't like pron anyways?
Hemiii said @ 3:31am GMT on 26th Jun
Christ how did I miss this sensible new information?
Sarahbear said @ 4:22am GMT on 26th Jun [Score:1 Insightful]
STOP sleeping... the internet never does

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