Sensible Erection | Have you been cut?

Monday, 22 October 2007

Have you been cut?

quote [ This isnt an article per se. I was just wondering if any of you have had vasectomies and are willing to comment on it. Was it painful? Were there complications? Do you know anything about the method used? ]

I am asking all this because I had a horrible experience on Friday. I don't 'like' pain, but I am not wimp when it comes to getting hurt. This was absolutely the worst pain I have ever experienced in my life. I am 33, 5'10 and about 60 lbs overweight. I dont know if that has anything to do with it. Below is some detail from an email I sent to a friend Friday afternoon. There are 3 parts in my mind to the progression below. I think that part 1 was possibly the worst. It seemed completely cruel on his part to even attempt what he did before trying attempt 4 and 5.

"I just got back from experiencing the worst pain of my life. Apparently when my larger testicle gets scared/cold it retracts and doesnt come out. So, Doc decided to try to grab it and yank it down. Extreme pain #1,2 and 3 for his three tries to yank it out of its hiding place.

We try a warm cloth and it descends, so he makes his insicion which I felt. Then takes his little tool and starts fishing for the vas. I breathe heavy and try to ignore the pain. Extreme pain #4... He explains this pain is very unusual.

I try to relax and try again. This time he grabs the vas, but when he starts to pull the pain comes from deep inside. It makes me feel like I have to shit, so I tell him. He said thats normal and continues pulling. On the next bout of pain, I feel conciousness leaving me so he stops and we have to fucking reschedule for me to go under...

Talk about humiliating and painful. At least I have the day off."

[by fishandring@8:25amGMT] [+10 Interesting]

Comments

cdwilli1 said @ 8:32am GMT on 22nd Oct
I had mine done some years ago. The doc gave me local anesthetic and said if you feel any discomfort, tell me.

He shaved the area, got out his scalpel and gingerly cut in to the skin. OK so far. Then he hunted for a vas - this was a little painful so he upped the local. I still felt him wandering about down there; no pain just a gentle ache. After the cutting/tying he sewed me up and I went home. Had to lie on my back until the morning.

My rating: not too bad, but would not want to do it every day.

Sounds like your doc needed to use a lot more local... or take you to his and have a stiff one… (sorry about the pun).

FrankenBlog said @ 12:42am GMT on 23rd Oct
The only pain I felt during the procedure was when he cauterized an area that hadn't been numbed well enough. Ow. I also had the normal feelings of pressure and tugging (which was a little weird). Afterwards I was really sore for a couple of days.

FrankenBlog said @ 12:43am GMT on 23rd Oct
I had the "no scalpel" procedure.

eightbitonline said @ 8:34am GMT on 22nd Oct
i had a vasectomy, i experienced the "deep pain" and was also assured it was normal. the "hiding testicle" thing didn't happen to me and i believe that's the cause of all the other kinds of pain you were feeling. i think going under might be the answer for you.

.... that "deep pain" was the fucking worst though. man.

Catalyst Moon said @ 8:41am GMT on 22nd Oct
Funny you should ask, I just had a vasectomy 10 days ago. It was a traditional one, and looking back on it I think I might have looked around for someone who does the no scalpel method (simply for the faster recovery).

The only pain in the procedure itself was the 2 little stings of the numbing shots. Beyond that I didn't feel a thing. I did almost pass out while waiting in the room for it to start, and as I got up after. But that was just my brain fucking around with me, not from the procedure or pain.

During the recovery my balls ached a bit, I could get around but I wasn't about to do jumping jacks. As of today the incisions are almost totally healed and the ache is gone to the point where I might go for a run.

I didn't have any complications but the recovery wasn't quite what was advertised. They said "you'll be back to normal in 4-5 days" so when my balls still ached from walking to the kitchen on day 7 I called and they said "that's normal, it'll get better over the next few days". And it did, but still - my idea of normal or counting days must be different than theirs.

tbt10f said @ 6:57pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:2]
those are 4-5 business days.

fishandring said @ 8:48am GMT on 22nd Oct
Ya, he told me prior to starting that approximately 1 in 6000 to 1 in 10000 might have the complication I ended up having. I am such a freak. I may even have to have tests run afterwards to find it if anything is wrong inside there.

ring riot said @ 8:59am GMT on 22nd Oct
My fiancee brought it up once.

ONCE.

All kidding aside, even though we don't want children, there's no way a knife gets near Mr. Happy.

nik said @ 9:59am GMT on 22nd Oct
My brother-in-law refused to get the surgery. That is, until my sister said:

"Get the surgery, or I'm never fucking you again."

He got the surgery.

They had two kids and she didn't want any more.

Don't be a coward -- get the surgery and say goodbye to all the complicated forms of birth control.

ring riot said @ 10:01am GMT on 22nd Oct
Why do I find it not surprising that your moniker is "nik" and that you're condoning vasectomies?

RajaYoga said @ 10:24am GMT on 22nd Oct
At least it's not Dr. Nik

headlessfriar said @ 2:56pm GMT on 22nd Oct
This is the same Nik who suggests fucking a toaster to relieve stress (of the toaster). Still, it's sound advice.

MrZeroPing said @ 10:20am GMT on 22nd Oct
Or you know... have her get her tubes tied.

LoC said @ 11:28am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:2 Insightful]
Which is far more invasive, complicated and potentially dangerous.
I'd rather suffer a few days of discomfort and some sly remark by close friends than see anything go wrong with my partner.

ring riot said @ 12:07pm GMT on 22nd Oct
See, we use these little things called CONDOMS. No cutting required.

LoC said @ 12:33pm GMT on 22nd Oct
Condoms are great and all, but when you decide you don't want kids, getting snipped seems worth it against the risk of a broken rubber or a little leakage and the truama of an abortion if it came to that.
Plus, honestly, when your girl grabs you and says "I want this, now" is grabbing a condom really the first thing that goes through your mind?

Context said @ 1:54pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:5 Funny]
No, it's "... but you're not my girlfriend!"

excellMint said @ 4:06pm GMT on 22nd Oct
i rolfd

midden said @ 1:56pm GMT on 22nd Oct
You are clearly a pansy.

One morning in the doc's office and a few days of discomfort vs. years of dosing the body of the woman you love with hormones to intentionally throw her internal biochemical regulatory system out of whack?

If you are not willing to go through the relatively minor procedure for her, you should seriously reconsider marrying her.

No kidding here at all.

foobar said @ 4:14pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Funny]
Dude, I don't necessarily disagree with you in principle, but the words "relatively minor" do not belong in the same sentence, paragraph, or mother fucking language as anything involving knives inside balls.

theolypse said @ 4:51pm GMT on 22nd Oct
Bull. I could do the procedure on myself, if I had the equipment and a sterile space. Vasectomies are -simple-.

donnie said @ 8:46pm GMT on 22nd Oct
Yeah, but they're not normal. The spice must flow. Remember how masturbation and/or sex lowers your risk of prostate cancer? Cancel that and reverse it when you chop your tubes.

nik said @ 9:36pm GMT on 22nd Oct
When a man with a vasectomy orgasms, he still empties his prostate.

donnie said @ 9:58pm GMT on 22nd Oct
But what of the effect of sperm on the prostate? And what of testicular cancer? Studies are divided, but there is suggestive evidence that men who have vasectomies are at some elevated risk of cancers.

klayto said @ 9:05am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:-1 WTF]
I don't understand why any man wants himself being mutilated especially on his "best piece". Is it for the 10 seconds less spent in the shower? Is it for feeling fewer sensations to be able to last longer during sex? (The parts being cut off are _really_ sensible and feel great when doing the old in'n'out game - or some other nice practice)
I for one am glad to still being a 'full' man.

dirtbaglovers said @ 9:10am GMT on 22nd Oct
I think you missed it.

bentobox said @ 9:11am GMT on 22nd Oct
This is not a vasectomy you're describing.

VictorTyne said @ 9:21am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:4 Funny]
Vasectomy, not Circumcision.

This is what happens when you spend time playing with your "full man" instead of paying attention in sex ed class.

klayto said @ 10:33pm GMT on 22nd Oct
Oops! thanks for the clarification. all those difficult foreign words.... guess i'll burp my worm and be quiet.

fuzzo said @ 10:25am GMT on 22nd Oct
i don't know about you, but they mutilated my best piece by cutting off my foreskin with a piece of nylon suture when a was about 2 days old. no one even asked me if wanted it or not.

Starjump said @ 9:12am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:-5 Flamebait]
Congratulations guys on surrendering your masculinity.

kang said @ 9:40am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:2 Insightful]
Getting an orchiectomy is surrendering your masculinity.

Getting a vasectomy is surrendering potentially eternal paternity payments.

KropperPrime said @ 9:16am GMT on 22nd Oct
I would like to know what motivates a man to do that when they are sooooo many other birth control method.

VictorTyne said @ 9:26am GMT on 22nd Oct
How about banishing the absolute terror of some cocktrapper using you to get pregnant and leeching off you for the rest of your life?

The fear of getting your lady (long-term relationship or otherwise) pregnant is very real for a lot of guys. Pregnancy is like an STD that takes twenty years to clear up. Cutting that fear off at the source would be (horrible pun) taking a huge load off.

horseinsheep said @ 9:30am GMT on 22nd Oct
It's permanent, (reversible-ish, if I recall, but almost never ineffective) and you can thereafter have sex with your partner with no preparation or complications.

It doesn't involve drugs - usually the guy would do this with his partner, who could then stop taking hormone pills.

It's a lot less invasive than a hysterectomy.

foobar said @ 9:42am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Insightful]
That's a matter of perspective. Yes, the surgery involved is less physically invasive, but psychologically? OH MY GOD KNIVES IN MY BALLS!

fishandring said @ 9:44am GMT on 22nd Oct
My wife is breastfeeding, and then would prefer not to be on the pill thereafter. Your body doesnt stop producing any of the "key elements" they just never reach the target.

I for one prefer not to resort to condoms for the next year after 10 years of not using one. Also, we are done with kids. Even if we moved on, I DONT WANT ANY MORE KIDS. Its simple. Why continue to take the chance when there is no way that we will get an abortion from a mistake?

Catalyst Moon said @ 9:56am GMT on 22nd Oct
That's exactly my reason. And speaking from experience if your wife wants a baby and you don't, and she's "on the pill", you're going to have a baby.

Ever had your wisdom teeth removed? This is (usually) less complicated. Like 10 minutes in the doc's office.

FrankenBlog said @ 6:08am GMT on 23rd Oct
I'm with you. The wife and I had three together. We're DONE having babies. Even if I remarried I wouldn't want any more kids. Being responsible for three (who I do love dearly) is enough. And again, it's a quick procedure and virtually painless. It liberates you mentally and physically. Before the procedure my wife was freaked I'd impregnate her again (and with good reason). Now it's the furthest thing from our minds.

But I can't say I totally went willingly. there was the deal my wife made with me and the fact that I really didn't want my wife getting an invasive procedure done after bringing my three girls into this world with NO DRUGS/epidurals/etc. I'd have been a complete pussy if I didn't do it.

LoC said @ 10:35am GMT on 22nd Oct
Yes. And soooooo many things that can go wrong with just about all of them in terms of sideaffects of just outright failure.
The rarest form of brith control of all is one that doesn't have a law suit against it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depo_Provera for just one example. I'm sure a
lot of girls want their bones back.
Even condoms aren't 100% affective. I'm 22, I have my entire life ahead of me, and I'm in no financial situation to have (nor do I want, and most likely never will) children. I'm seriously considering getting this done, although my fiance is looking into a hysterectomy anyways for some medical problems so I might not have too.

LoC said @ 11:10am GMT on 22nd Oct
(Pre-emptive grammar nazi actionn) Effective.
...Mmm nazi action.

spite48 said @ 3:12pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Informative]
Anal sex. Oral sex. Nasal sex. There are alternatives which don't involve hormones.

fgcow said @ 5:57pm GMT on 22nd Oct
For moments like these:
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/274495936.html

fgcow said @ 6:01pm GMT on 22nd Oct
Bah... knew I should have read the whole thread. It's also in ComposerNate's comment below.

foobar said @ 9:24am GMT on 22nd Oct
DO NOT WANT.

monkeytooth said @ 9:26am GMT on 22nd Oct
Since we're on the topic,

does anyone know what's up with 4chan?

mao tse helen said @ 9:43am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:2]
I can't say as I've ever really known just what the hell was up with 4chan.

marabean said @ 11:59am GMT on 22nd Oct
It's taking a Caturday Nap.

(Good luck sorting through the /b/tardation in that link.)

bboy0185 said @ 5:39pm GMT on 22nd Oct
There's a chan war on right now... I think the host wanted to have all chans under one collective site name to which moot opposed. And now there's a big war going on between 4ch and their rivals.

v21 said @ 4:02am GMT on 23rd Oct
I love the internet.

vahid said @ 9:36am GMT on 22nd Oct

not cut.

JOECAM said @ 9:40am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Funny]

What Happens to a Man’s Body After a Vasectomy?

http://www.quiverfull.com/birth_control/dangersofvasectomy.html

Don't do it....

fishandring said @ 9:53am GMT on 22nd Oct
That's typical internet hysteria. This procedure has been researched into the ground. We are talking about men here. If its a man, its been researched to no end.

The immuno response is well known and occurs fairly rarely.
The only real statistically significant results were from a moderate increase in prostate cancer in some recipients. But, a more broad study of exactly the same thing showed that initial results were only barely statistically significant due to the smaller sample size. This could be as simple as men with vasctomies dont come as often even if it were significant.

Correlation does not equal causation.

louferrigno said @ 1:19pm GMT on 22nd Oct
no, that's not typical internet hysteria, that's crazy freak-ass christian let's-have-a-thousand-babies-because-jesus-said so hysteria

maryyugo said @ 9:54am GMT on 22nd Oct
some of that stuff *might* be true-- but the article without citations and references to legitimate scientific papers is somewhat worse than worthless.

fuzzo said @ 10:29am GMT on 22nd Oct
he quoted campbell’s urology, numbskull.

maryyugo said @ 10:45am GMT on 22nd Oct
really, fuzzy? it says "Do You Care To Be A Lab Rat?" in campbell's urology? that'd be news to campbell. or were you thinking of the soup maker?

maryyugo said @ 10:51am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Insightful]
"Hundreds of medical research articles and several books by numerous doctors over the last three decades have examined the issues of vasectomy and the effects the procedure can have on the body. "

really-- and you can't cite them?

"Unfortunately, much of that information has been well concealed from the public eye."

sure. publishing hundreds of medical research articles and several books is a great way to hide information from the "public eye" (did he mean *pubic* eye?) . only better way to hide the information would be to shout it from the rooftops.

fuzzo said @ 11:00am GMT on 22nd Oct
none of this changes the fact that you're still a numbskull.

EPT said @ 11:09am GMT on 22nd Oct
That last paragraph of his is quite telling.

nik said @ 9:57am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Insightful]
Vasectomies cause LUPUS?!?

No, no, no.

One theory about people who get vasectomies and a supposed increase of medical problems is that these men are the types who go to their doctor when they have problems. That is, I don't want babies, I go to my doctor. If I start to have heart palpatations, I go to my doctor.

This might not be true of, say, a guy who is too chickenshit to get a vasectomy. Such a person might avoid their doctor for multiple reasons.

And thus, statistically, the vasectomy people appear to have more medical problems. When in fact we're just SUPER AWESOME GODS WHO ARE BRAVER THAN YOU SEED-SQUIRTING MOTHER-FUCKERS.

shortstop4313 said @ 11:37am GMT on 22nd Oct
Bwahahaha! Consider the source.

FrankenBlog said @ 12:27am GMT on 23rd Oct
Blah blah blah blah. Of course there can be some complications. That's normal. As a matter of fact I've actually had a blowout as described. It happens. Especially to those that have lots of sex (like me). The rest of it is unsubstantiated crap. This is an article a guy can throw out at their spouse so they'll have a leg to stand on when the conversation occurs.

I didn't enjoy my vasectomy. I wasn't really psyched about getting it done. But now that it's done (it's been a year since) I am literally thrilled about it. This guy doesn't want anymore babies. Also, my wife made me an offer I couldn't refuse (one night with any girl of my choosing--which I have not collected on yet).

I can safely say that no sensation whatsoever has been lost, nor have I had any health issues since (save the blowout w/ spermatic granuloma--but that goes away over time). I consider this a small price to pay to have carefree sex with my wife as often as possible. It's very liberating. It'll also be a relief when the wife and I have a little extracurricular now and then.

larger2day said @ 3:06am GMT on 23rd Oct
You are lucky because some people do get long term pain. And the blowouts are a good sign. They have been described as pressure valves that allow the epididymis not to get congested.

FrankenBlog said @ 6:01am GMT on 23rd Oct
Well I do have a little tenderness that never fully went away. But it's actually a good tenderness. Has made me a little more sensitive down there. Makes the sex good. Sometimes I'll have a little feeling of blue balls, too. Nothing major, though.

nik said @ 9:51am GMT on 22nd Oct
I got a vasectomy about nine years ago. It hurt afterwards, for a day. After that, I had pains on and off, but nothing serious -- although I did over react and go see my doctor.

"What colour are your balls?" he asked me.

"Colour?" I repeatedly stupidly.

"They're BLUE!" he said.

His theory was that I wasn't squirting boy butter often enough, and that's what the pain was all about. He was probably right. I'd moved in with my girlfriend. I used to jerk off at least once a day. With her around, I didn't get to do that anymore and it made me sad.

BEST PART ABOUT A VASECTOMY: never having to worry that I am going to knock up my partner thanks to a broken condom or something like that.

If you hate children or don't want children, I highly recommend a vasectomy. I have no kids, want no kids, and the vasectomy was perfectly painless. I had the "no scalpel" kind. My pubes were NOT shaved or anthing like that.

WEIRDEST PART OF THE OPERATION: a burning smell coming from my groin as I lay flat on my back.

DuncmanG said @ 9:55am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:5 Funny]
I had extra tubes put in.

eightbitonline said @ 9:58am GMT on 22nd Oct
just a note: i banked sperm before i got mine done. i'm only 26 so i don't know how things'll go in the future and how my mind will change. i have one beautiful 5-year old daughter already, but i definitely got cock-trapped by her mother who simply stopped taking the pill once she decided that she wanted kids (without consulting me, when I was 21, just leaving college, and didn't yet have a job).

i don't want that to happen again, and i definitely don't want contraception entirely in the hands of only one half of a partnership. let's face it: after four months with a girl you're gonna wanna stop having condom sex and likely have enough trust to let her take care of the contraception, but that trust is often (after a year or two, for various reasons) found to be misplaced... and the absolute worst way to find out that your trust was misplaced is to have a child and be FURTHER tied to this person.

Also, once the seed is planted it is in the WOMAN's body and not yours, and as such it is not in your power to exercise your choice in the matter. YOU have to make your choice BEFORE insemination occurs, women enjoy a position of luxury by comparison.

I won't be telling any women in the future that I got cut. The one I was with at the time did not like it at all, even though i was storing sperm... I believe it also played a role in her recent decision that I wasn't the man for her. If a woman I'm with wants to have children and we both agree it's the right time we'll be off to the hospital with a turkey baster in hand and both of us very happy and confident about what we're doing.

nik said @ 10:03am GMT on 22nd Oct
Ouch. My sympathies. Your story is MUCH more painful than a vasectomy.

Jewbacchus said @ 10:29am GMT on 22nd Oct
agreed. There was a story around her somewhere about a guy that didn't tell his girlfriend he had gotten it done, and she claimed she was pregnant with his kid, and after letting her bitch at him for a few hours he explains to her it can't be his and she cheated on him.

My testicles hurt reading this, but i'll probably have it done at some point. I'm going to insist on being put to sleep though.

ComposerNate said @ 11:06am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Funny]

I’ll try to sum up a funny story that happened a few years ago: I got a vasectomy. I met a girl soon afterwards. She was nice and attractive but with a selfish streak that raised a big red flag. She was 32 at the time and I could practically HEAR her biological clock ticking. Regardless, she was a good lay, easy on the eyes, and reasonably good company.

I did NOT tell her about my vasectomy and I always used a condom with her to protect against STDs. She assumed, obviously, that the condom was only used for birth control. Silly girl.

We date for a few months. I never made any move towards commitment but she brought it up ocassionally. For me, this was a casual but pleasant relationship. For her - as I was to find out - it was part of life-changing series of events that she was planning very carefully.
http://www.sportstimeout.com/showthread.php?t=444

It continues from there, getting more interesting.

nik said @ 11:57am GMT on 22nd Oct
Good story, but the guy seems like a sexist prick. Which I guess I can understand, seeing he went through all of this shit. Still, what kind of a calculating mother fucker goes out and gets notarized legal documents, just so he can mess with someone's head?

My version of the story would go like this:

"I'm pregnant!"

"It's not mine, I had a vasectomy three months before we met."

"You're lying!"

"No, I'm not. Sorry. So you've cheated on me, and you're pregnant with someone else's child? I'm not happy. Goodbye."

What took him a week and several notorized letters would have been over for me in about an hour, if that.

maryyugo said @ 12:02pm GMT on 22nd Oct
in this story, if it's true (a big if) the guy's a bigger cunt than the woman-- he's a sadistic shit who enjoys torturing her. it wouldn't take an hour to straighten this out. it would require about 3 minutes to give the her the news mercifully and one medium dose of valium and/or alcohol to blunt the impact. also, there's something sick about hatching this elaborate plot while still having sex with the victim. yup. he's a sick, twisted piece of human shit, he is.

monkeytooth said @ 12:10pm GMT on 22nd Oct
didn't read the full article yet but she sounds like the evil cunt so far...

monkeytooth said @ 12:15pm GMT on 22nd Oct
okay i read it. The guy is a jerk... but the woman (if the story is true) is a much worse evil cunt.

also I've been in a similar place a few times so I sympathize.

Copperhead said @ 12:11pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:2 Underrated]
And the woman trapping him into society mandated servitude because she's a cheating skank who decided she wanted a rugrat when he didn't.... that makes her a stand-up sort of person?

Seems to me she got what she deserved.

nik said @ 12:43pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:2 Insightful]
One Wrong plus One Wrong = Two Wrongs.

Hope this helps.

EPT said @ 2:10pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Funny]
One Video plus One That's Just Wrong = De_Wr0ng

maryyugo said @ 1:27pm GMT on 22nd Oct
who said that?

larger2day said @ 1:10pm GMT on 22nd Oct
There is still a slight chance he might have gotten her pregnant.
So his question "are you sure I am the father." is a good question to ask. He can't be 100% sure that the child is not his.

foobar said @ 4:16pm GMT on 22nd Oct
I think he can be as close as possible to completely sure:

1. He had himself tested to make sure the vasectomy worked.
2. He found out through a third party that she had in fact cheated on him.

snowfox said @ 5:42pm GMT on 22nd Oct
3. She can't prove one of the condoms broke as she claimed.

larger2day said @ 3:15am GMT on 23rd Oct
Yes, but I mean ,she "goes batshit insane" when he asks her about it.
That kind of attitude is motivation to get that kind of proof? Unless you can actually solve the problem in a few minutes talking, which only a few can ,seeing how people fight endlessly about similar problems.

jutetrea said @ 11:18am GMT on 22nd Oct

Been there, done that. Now have a 3 month old.

Always wanted kids in the abstract "when I'm older". Fiance had the talk of kids in the future when we're in the right place, abortion otherwise.

About last summer (married 2 yrs) I decided I didn't want kids. Finally had the discussion with the wife and it turned into as much of an argument as two people in a great, non-argumentative relationship can get into.

November she got put on some antibiotics, had about a 5 day window...got pregnant. More than likely on ignorance of both are parts that antibiotics reduce the effectiveness of the pill (actually the nouvo ring or something). Had another row, I wanted an abortion, she didn't.

Now have a 3 month old. It sucks, but its great at the same time. He's great, still deciding on the wife.

I just asked my doc about vasectomies last week actually.

Starjump said @ 10:29am GMT on 22nd Oct
It seems like in general and please dont get me wrong - Im not being insultive or racist but this again points back to the fear nowadays in American males.

Could I get a census on the origins of those males who have had a vasectomy, maybe I'm wrong but I'm hedging my beggings on it being mostly americans.

All this talk of paternaty payments, women tricking men, sperm being frozen. It smacks of the fear and paraniod state of mind of the Americans.

Maybe Im totally worng and would enjoy being proved so. However I put this to SE - Vasectomy levels have geographic highs based on cultural and economic (yes its a business and fear is a good commercial) positioning?

EPT said @ 10:57am GMT on 22nd Oct
Does India count into your cultural and economic highs?

Starjump said @ 11:20am GMT on 22nd Oct
Depends on what call centre you work for...

fishandring said @ 4:08pm GMT on 22nd Oct
None of what you said even entered my mind. I dont want another kid. There is no special law related american fear. China is actually the highest incidence, BTW.

eightbitonline said @ 3:03am GMT on 23rd Oct
canadian. my vasectomy and follow-up, etc. was all 100% totally covered by Canada's public health system. I didn't have to shell out a dime (i pay for my sperm storage though, avg. about $20/month)

djallegar said @ 10:29am GMT on 22nd Oct
I was given intravenous valium to overcome the pain of yarding down the vas defrens, which was very short as well. It helped to overcome the pain, which was significant.

umm...weird said @ 10:44am GMT on 22nd Oct
So, im 20, dont have kids, want kids, in time. But as soon as im done, id be more than happy to get the 'ol Vasectomy. I dont get all you guys bitching about losing your "manhood" and shit. Everything works, you just shoot blanks, essentially. Plus, if my wife or significant other is gonna punch out some kids, the least i can do is get a goddamn Vasectomy. Just thought SE might like the perspective from a youngster.

drd69 said @ 10:44am GMT on 22nd Oct
I had two of them work on me. They entered the operating theatre and introduced themselves as Dr X I"m the right nut specialist and this is Dr. Y the left nut specialist. They proceeded to crack jokes through the whole procedure. Including a couple of loud "OOPS". Was sore for a day or so. Used the frozen bag of peas trick to help with the pain.

JOECAM said @ 10:44am GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:1 Informative]

excellMint said @ 4:11pm GMT on 22nd Oct [Score:2 Funny]
DO NOT WATCH THIS AFTER EATING A BOCA BURGER

Even if your not a vegetarian

JOECAM said @ 10:53am GMT on 22nd Oct

Most of my friends have gotten a divorce, and they all married much younger women, guess what, they women wanted children. Reversal is not always possible, and it's expensive. So if you are like most people, you will get divorced, so think about it.

Jewbacchus said @ 11:28am GMT on 22nd Oct
Most places advise you to freeze a good stockpile before the procedure, right?

eightbitonline said @ 3:07am GMT on 23rd Oct
my urologist said that if i stored sperm he wouldn't perform the operation. he said storing would indicate a level of doubt, and because of my young age, plus what he saw as self-doubt he wouldn't feel comfortable performing the procedure.

i stored anyways and didn't tell him.

maryyugo said @ 10:55am GMT on 22nd Oct
here's a complete description of the entire procedure, anesthetic and possible complications with illustrations. warning: graphics are graphic, probably nsfw. the burning someone smelled is just the cautery. it's all here. i think no s/o or pw needed.

maryyugo said @ 11:06am GMT on 22nd Oct
the cornell version of the "no scalpel" vasectomy.

larger2day said @ 12:21pm GMT on 22nd Oct
fishandring, I got a vasectomy last March. Don't go for it if you experienced that kind of pain. Bodies are different and it might be that there are some nerves very close to your vas. Damaging those nerves might be the cause for Post Vasectomy Pain Syndrome.
So, my advice is, don't do it.

I am glad I got my vasectomy:
1) I don't want to get pregnant.
(if I change my mind I plan on finding a single mom, there are plenty where I live at, and I know plenty! haha)
2) I did not get that rare PVPS.

I am not glad I got my vasectomy:
1) before I was a huge ball busting fan, now i have to be super gentle because now it hurts instead of being pleasurable!! So if you are into ball busting, consider that aspect of pleasure in love making reduced after the vas cut.
2) Reduced intensity of orgasm. This has been my experience: Somehow orgasm before the vas cut included a pleasurable sensation originating in the testicles and the pulsating-pleasures would travel through the vas. After vasectomy orgasm is not the same. The change is very subtle, very very subtle. So many would say orgasm is the same. But I would be lying if I said it was the same.
3) reading info that has scared me:
http://dontfixit.org/
http://www.actionlove.com/extra/vascectomy.htm
4)mild pain once in a while. (I have learned testicle massage techniques that help!)
5)took 12 weeks to get sperm cleared.. (longer than expected)

But anyways, I suggest you wait at least a couple of months to see how you recover from the attempted surgery. Also, when you have an orgasm with eyaculation, put your attention down there, you will see that part of the pleasure comes from something that happens in the testicles and the vas. Perhaps its the contractions that push the sperm out of the testicle. Try it. That,perhaps,will be gone after vas cut.

It is great not to worry about getting her pregnant, yet when I reach with my hand and grab my balls, ouch, tender..

Another friend got a vasectomy and he said that he had slight pain just before eyaculating, and that such pain went away after 6 months.

I also had that pain, and it went away after 5 months and it was only in about 3/5 of eyaculations.

Feel free to PM me with any questions..
An urologist did the procedure, went in with 2 nurses and 2 docs (urologist included) in an operating room. Super fast, slight pain when the vas was cut and when they were about to cut it. Gosh remembering this actually makes me feel pain on my left testicle right now.
Recovery was 2 weeks, complete recovery was 5 weeks, before 5 weeks(enough to run and jump and stretch and do stuff..), complete complete recovery has not yet happened (slight pain comes and goes every once in a while). But it's ok. Better than having an unwanted prenancy .

Nihil said @ 2:05am GMT on 23rd Oct
"before I was a huge ball busting fan, now i have to be super gentle because now it hurts instead of being pleasurable!!"

I don't get this. Isn't ball busting a form of masochism, i.e. isn't the pleasure essentially psychological?

larger2day said @ 3:05am GMT on 23rd Oct
Well, the pleasure that comes from rough testicle fondling is what I am calling ball busting. Not the hardcore shit!
And that rough testicle fondling did not feel rough, it felt pleasurable. Rough being, wrestling with her (testicle squeezing allowed), tapping them during sex or squeezing them, etc. Stuff like that has now become a true painful experience.
I choose ball busting+vasectomy combination so that the internet fella who searches for that combination gets my feedback.

granitewitch said @ 12:58pm GMT on 22nd Oct
I had mine done over 14 years ago. It was uncomfortable for a few days, and the first few times I had sex it didn't quite feel right, but that's about it. The symptoms completely cleared up. No regrets whatsoever- because I had three kids already and no desire at all for more.

I have had no side effects, other than a better sex life. No worries of pregnancy, so I can have as much sex as I want, as long as I protect myself from diseases. Because frankly, that way I don't need to trust anyone else when it comes to birth control. I know it's never going to be an issue again.

But hey, that's just my personal experience over the past fourteen years. What do I know? (/sarcasm)

b said @ 1:13pm GMT on 22nd Oct
great. i'm planning on getting one and this thread now has me a little freaked out.

nik said @ 9:39pm GMT on 22nd Oct
Worry not, young Jedi.

spaceman spork said @ 2:27pm GMT on 22nd Oct
My coworker did it.

He had 2 kids. Then accidentally had a 3rd. Then like a year later accidentally had a fourth. Decided he was NOT gonna have another accident. Haha. My other coworker said he's getting cut sometime after his second kid. Who's due next month.

I'd do it the second I knew I didn't want any more kids.

bbqkink said @ 3:49pm GMT on 22nd Oct
Yes, a long time ago have never been sorry. as did it hurt....short answer yes, like being kicked in the nuts last about 2 ta 3 days, still worth it.

excellMint said @ 4:08pm GMT on 22nd Oct
I'm not married, nor do I see it happening, however... I've considered dropping off a deposit at the bank and getting snipped just for the convenience.

popejp2 said @ 5:01pm GMT on 22nd Oct
i had an operation

-_- said @ 5:18pm GMT on 22nd Oct
I had one done after my third daughter ... played halflife 2 with an icepack on my balls for three days ... drank rum and ate icecream.

It hurts .. but after watching my wife get sewn back up the third time I felt it was the least I could do.
She offered to be the one that got "fixed" but I decided to go ahead and be the one.

My sex drive was noticeably deminished by about 10-20% afterwards but thats fine as it's 200-500% stronger than hers still anyway.

And that's my story ... pm me if you have more questions.
I'm on the road so my response time might suffer though.

o_o said @ 5:46pm GMT on 22nd Oct
(by 10-20%)