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Monday, 1 October 2007
quote [ This was the single largest seizure of an operable LSD lab in the history of the Drug Enforcement Administration. ]
Yes he broke the law and they threw the book at him because its the law. But for anyone that lived through this time, It still makes a great read. Various accounts claim they were the source for as much as 90% of the entire LSD supply chain.
The main link, I believe, gives the fullest account of how everything went down.
[by fishandring@11:37amGMT] [+10 Informative] Not much new has been posted on the site, but this has good links to various media coverage of the busts. http://www.freepickard.org/new.html Some good insight on the sleaze that brought it all down: http://www.freepickard.org/skinner.html Ctrl+F: "Pickard" on this page to follow the trail of his footnote in LSDs history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD or go straight to his reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Leonard_Pickard Mass media on the bust: http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/Central/03/17/lsd.lab.ap/ Fringe media on the bust: Wired mentions it in an article about the silos where it was manufactured. http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2001/10/47577 'The Acid King' in Rolling Stone: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4971211 |
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ring riot
said @ 11:44am GMT on 1st Oct
I took acid four times I'm in my life. The last time, I realized that I'm simply too self-conscious and analytically minded for the drug, and the negatives outweighed the positives. Mushrooms, twice, better experiences with that. Interesting articles, I'd never heard of the story before. |
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badgerbaiter
said @ 12:12pm GMT on 1st Oct
Have a go on some DMT for a refreshing change. |
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CatalystDM
said @ 2:55pm GMT on 1st Oct
isnt that the shit from people's brains |
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theolypse
said @ 4:43pm GMT on 1st Oct
Pineal glands. |
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Hunter S. Thompson
said @ 7:02pm GMT on 1st Oct
Extract of pineal. |
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Dr. Gonzo
said @ 4:48am GMT on 2nd Oct
As your attorney, I advise you to take a hit from the little brown bottle in my shaving kit. You won't need much... just a tiny taste. |
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theolypse
said @ 11:47am GMT on 1st Oct
Insight. You get -1 spelling if it's not fixed in an hour. |
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fishandring
said @ 11:52am GMT on 1st Oct
Corrected. Sometimes I wonder why I keep posting here... |
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theolypse
said @ 12:08pm GMT on 1st Oct
Have a generic upmod on account. |
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mr.dna
said @ 12:14pm GMT on 1st Oct
For the free spelling/grammar lessons, of course! |
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Tungston
said @ 5:48am GMT on 2nd Oct
Your comment is sort of like a broken link now. |
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theolypse
said @ 4:44pm GMT on 2nd Oct
It happens. Like responses to things that have been downmodded off the screen. |
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mrcucumber
said @ 11:56am GMT on 1st Oct
OK, this is a tamp style post. I will not read and downmod instantly. |
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headlessfriar
said @ 12:10pm GMT on 1st Oct
[Score:1 Funny]
What? You sound like madpride/tamp yourself sometimes. |
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mrcucumber
said @ 4:50pm GMT on 1st Oct
Sarcasm just flies over heads sometimes.... *geez* |
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tamp
said @ 7:09pm GMT on 1st Oct
[Score:1 Insightful]
Some folks really joined club-med and the mile-high club in my era, with the Mc Cucumber, Madness and Sunshine were in the mile wide club, take the little micro-dots or window-pane and disappear from town, we were to nature and the road less traveled, what ravers are to empty buildings. We took acid to escape and have fun, older brothers dying in Vietnam, the corruption at the top, seeing our hero's killed And the dawn of evil as the original GW possee was in power, Reagan, Bush Sr, Cheney and old Rummey seemed set to go nuclear winter, cold war, secret wars, drug wars, end of slack conservative christian fucking corporate sold out, gay, hippy, alternative energy, fucked health care/job security, earth hating time blues |
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Saint_Marck
said @ 9:32pm GMT on 1st Oct
earth hating time blues indeed |
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Khafra
said @ 4:38am GMT on 2nd Oct
I've finally realized--Tamp is my ex-wife. |
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Narrenschiff
said @ 2:58pm GMT on 1st Oct
...I thought you were part of the tampride legion. |
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tamp
said @ 11:59am GMT on 1st Oct
[Score:1 Informative]
I ate it. |
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spazm
said @ 12:07pm GMT on 1st Oct
No kidding. |
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tamp
said @ 5:11am GMT on 2nd Oct
[Score:1 Interesting]
When I was young and crazy I crashed a New Years party of some older heads. The party had been going awhile, people had already drank the OJ and to my eyes you could see and feel these folks triping. This guy says the OJ is gone but you can eat the hits on the bottom. On the bottom was a strip of paper with 12 hits of Micky Mouses, as I ate the paper, everyone laughed and said your in for big one now. The guy asked for my car keys. I laid back and listened to music till the waves started, the whole warping of the room began, I suddenly felt like we were at sea or the tropics and the wind was distorting the house, the room, people faces. I went to the bathroom and stared at my melting face, the colors of the room, tile and grime were to much, I wound up laughing for so long, that I began rolling on the floor. This guy came in that knew me and wanted to make out or take a shower with me. I was to gone to do that. I asked him to walk me to this great spot in the woods to hang out. The tripping came in heavy waves, like clouds flying over in the moonlight. At times my legs would go rubbery, and rolling on the ground and moaning seemed right. I freaked this dude a little because he said I could not talk for hours, just kept laughing. At one point I could see I was dead, I was lying on moss and could see leaves falling on me and being frozen and covered with snow. Then as I realized I was not dead, all the petty and bad things I have done, (slights0 paraded before my eyes, I could see the motivation, fear, hopes of everyone I knew, I loved myself, this dirt on the ground, these tree's and the air. A bunch of people coming down from the party around dawn showed up with bagels, warm cider and a blanket, I was still tripping ovaries, and was feeling so good, we built a small fire and the drumming guys played drums and someone played flute. Heaven and Hell is here on earth my freinds. We can make it, break it, be evil, be kind, no afterlife means you gotta do what you gotta do now. I had been down in spirit and stuck in life around that time. Afterwards I did some more traveling, then found some work I was really into, and people I wanted to be with. |
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felix
said @ 10:35am GMT on 2nd Oct
tell me where you live. i'm gonna go buy a video camera, then come make a documentary about you. it's gonna be awesome. |
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tamp
said @ 4:27pm GMT on 2nd Oct
Take me down in the Canyon to the Colorado River and we will make a video for the folks back here at SE. We could pod-cast and u-tube it. |
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felix
said @ 6:31pm GMT on 2nd Oct
let's get married and live down there. i don't even care if you're male or female, 19 or 60. i'd just love to sit around and listen to you talk, then try to make babies with you. |
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felix
said @ 6:33pm GMT on 2nd Oct
seriously, though, if i could afford the travel costs and the time off work, i would totally do this. anybody wanna bankroll it, then hook me up with a sweet job since i'd probably have to quit mine? |
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Dr. Connor Hea
said @ 12:38pm GMT on 1st Oct
new acid = better than the 90s. |
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JOECAM
said @ 12:50pm GMT on 1st Oct
I actually did some Pickard LSD in the 70', we called it sunshine, a little orange pill. I had a beautiful trip everytime, it was really pure and powerful, I never did the whole pill, I'd cut it into four pieces, each piece would last about two days. When you took off it was like rocketing into space, awesome, but the come down was hard. It made you very depressed for at least a day, to the point of crying, I knew it was the pill, so I held on. If I looked at my hand, I would study it for at least an hour, if you ate chocolate, it was the best chocolate you every had, I could go on and on .....................ahh the good ole' days. I knew Pickard got busted but I didn't know the whole story, thanx. |
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profetscott
said @ 6:42pm GMT on 1st Oct
.I ate a hit of orange sunshine about 70 or 71. Most intense trip I ever had. Not neccesarily the most pleasant, but it was on a road trip and very intense things were happening.(they would have been intense straight). I had a tendaqncy to be depressed at that time in my life, so I mostly knowtice I was a little tight for a while after. |
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sensibleb
said @ 1:01pm GMT on 1st Oct
I wouldn't say I did a lot of acid, but it was a semi-regular thing for me for a couple years in the 90's. I worked at a bar, and after closing my roommate and I would come home, each drop a tab (or two, which was a one-time mistake), and then trip until sunrise. A while ago I happened to be going through a box of old junk and found a single tab. It was late on a Friday night, the gf had gone to bed, so I thought what the hell. I figured that after years in a box it would've lost it's potency. It didn't. I always found that I was ok while tripping, as long as I stuck to a couple basic rules: 1. Never talk to strangers. 2. Don't have sex. (That may just be me, because I've heard it's been amazing for other people. Personally, my gf was way too shiny, melty and porous to even touch, let alone fuck.) 3. Whatever happens, just remember that it's just a cheap chemical, and those aren't really giant caterpillars screaming down the street swallowing thoughts. |
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JOECAM
said @ 1:09pm GMT on 1st Oct
[Score:1 Underrated]
I always did sunshine at parties, usually 20+ people, one night we all left to go to another party, it was a full moon that night, and somebody said, "WOW LOOK AT THE MOON MAN" now picture 20+ people in the middle of the street looking up at the moon for at least a half hour, till somebody broke the mood, and we went on are way to the next party. Cool. |
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JOECAM
said @ 1:03pm GMT on 1st Oct
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dave
said @ 1:41pm GMT on 1st Oct
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCf2fJsBxRc |
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dave
said @ 1:43pm GMT on 1st Oct
Damn! Don't know how to post a youtube link. But...Bill Hicks yawl |
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dave
said @ 1:49pm GMT on 1st Oct
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Joe_Luma
said @ 2:37pm GMT on 1st Oct
i do acid occasionally, and my experiences are all without exception excellent... until the late late hours of 2nd tab hangover, when it seems either gravity reverses or my head becomes an echo chamber for all the outside noises.... but... beautiful drug. beautiful. |
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Fu Man Chu
said @ 5:48pm GMT on 1st Oct
I was wondering where it all went. |
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Omagus23
said @ 7:51pm GMT on 1st Oct
I have taken over 100 LSD trips, and let me tell you: there is no reason for this drug to be Schedule 1. It's less mentally imparing than caffine for fuck's sake (to me anyway, I am nicknamed Ironman by my tripping buddies). Alcohol and tobacco will kill you for sure, yet they are still legal. Clearly the issue at stake is not one of public health or security, but one of money and mental control. Oh well, when trips are hard to find, just remember what the Chemical Brothers said: Making this slightly irconic is the fact that I was at their SF concert on friday on synthetic mescaline. It rocked. |
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sacrelicious
said @ 9:40pm GMT on 1st Oct
THE COLORS, I DON'T SEE THE COLORS!!!! |
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dominion236
said @ 11:16pm GMT on 1st Oct
I just took acid two days ago. It was one of the best experiences of my life. Felt almost exactly the same as shrooming. The trick is to use the experience of opening your mind to apply productively to your life and to reduce your cognitive dissonance. And don't smoke pot when your on it. It takes alway your ability to make insights. Personal experience. |
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Omagus23
said @ 4:19am GMT on 2nd Oct
Definetly. I was playing GTA on acid one time and then I went and smoked and BAM, I could not navigate the city for shit, despite the fact that molments ago I was routing from one end of the game to the other. Yeah, sometimes I don't do anything exciting while on acid. But it was fun. |
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KingPellinore
said @ 2:10am GMT on 2nd Oct
I had a year where I tripped about once a week. Good times. Wrote a lot of music, played a lot of video games. By the way, playing Resident Evil 2 in the dark and on 3 hits of purple gel tabs will change your life. Goddamn lickers. |
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fishandring
said @ 4:44am GMT on 2nd Oct
I'm guessing that you are 33 or 34. Those purple gels were bunk compared to the Rainbow Gathering distribution network... |
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KingPellinore
said @ 9:08am GMT on 2nd Oct
I'll be 28 on Halloween. I never had any problem with the purple gels. |
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fishandring
said @ 9:16am GMT on 2nd Oct
I didnt mean that they were problematic and quality may have increases in the intervening years, but when I saw them appear on the tail end of my use they were weak in comparison to the badly perforated white blotter that came from rainbow gatherings. |
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tamp
said @ 5:25am GMT on 2nd Oct
Slideshow: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? See related story: LSD: The Geek's Wonder Drug? http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/01/70015 Participants from around the globe came to Basel, Switzerland, to celebrate Albert Hofmann's 100th birthday and ponder the future of acid. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/multimedia/2006/01/70015 |
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fishandring
said @ 5:55am GMT on 2nd Oct
Read the initial link and you can find a link to a little fracas that occurred at that event related to Pickards arrest. Apparently, one of the people laundering money for Pickard had been feeding info to authorities and he thought no one knew. They called him out on it at the symposium... |
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tamp
said @ 6:52am GMT on 2nd Oct
hawaiian baby woodrose seeds were my first love, really can be good and 'natural' as long as you can find untainted (poisoned) seeds. Like those who love shrooms, unless you know a chemist and good connection you never really know what you get, unless you go natural, or to Germany or Amsterdam, where pure Sandoz -25 is made, and sold dropped on chocolate squares for about $$25. 100-400 micro grams. Hawaiian baby woodrose This also depends on the age of the seeds, as some of the psychoactive compounds found in Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds can break down in as little to 6 to 9 ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_baby_woodrose (Argyreia nervosa) Hawaiian Baby Woodrose is a perennial climbing vine with large heart-shaped leaves and white trumpet-shaped flowers. Its large furry seeds grow in seed pods ... www.erowid.org/plants/hbw/ Nice thing with these is trip lasts 5-6 hours, so less than 6-12 hour commitment. Physical activity, driving is more dangerous though, as this effects motor skills more. Also the bad taste revels mescaline or peyote. Funny how the drug war just forces kids and addicts to use more dangerous and unknown chemicals and dosages. My older brother actually did some from the batches of pure stuff sent to universities worldwide and anyone who knew to ask before the regulation. |
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snowfox
said @ 8:27am GMT on 2nd Oct
I tried those but they just never worked for me. Probably just got shit. |
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fforw
said @ 12:46pm GMT on 2nd Oct
same for me.. although other people were tripping from them I felt totally nothing.. made me a bit sleepy maybe.. but maybe I was just bored |
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tamp
said @ 1:14pm GMT on 2nd Oct
Must have been a bad batch. We used to buy 100 count approximate envelope for less than $20.00, from some 'herb' and head shops in the 70's-80's. They were uniform pea size, nearly perfectly round each. The costume was to scrap any thin layer from the outside if present, wash and dry with water. Then drop 13-16 (small person. 24 large.) into a coffee grinder, mortal and pestle till as fine as possible. Then put into 0 or 00 gelatin capsules. There was never any doubt about effects. Kids in Hawaii mess with them, just pick and dry them. At the time it was easier than dealing with hundreds of morning glory seeds, being more notorious, weaker and possible tainted with poison. |
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snowfox
said @ 2:36pm GMT on 2nd Oct
Sounds like a pain the ass. I'll stick to smoking. Now tell me about something else that holds my curiosity, tamp. Do you think I might look better as a man? |
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tamp
said @ 4:25pm GMT on 2nd Oct
The transsexual questions always come to me, I'd wait about 1,000 years when they use stem cells and nano-programing of the bod you really want, with fully functional sexual organs of the oposite sex or any of the four middle sexes or six combinations. Maybe a plant here will seduce you. I can't wait till they all allow all terminally ill folks to do what ever drugs they want. Doing tea ceromonies with those about to cross is cool, real TV. http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Plants/growing.html |
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fishandring
said @ 8:46am GMT on 2nd Oct
[Score:1 Underrated]
BTW, did y'all like the thumb? My 3 year old drew that in the bathtub the other day. The one on the left is me and the one on the right is my wife. The other 2 (her and her little baby sister) are off camera...for privacy reasons of course. Dont come after me now that y'all know what I look like. |
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snowfox
said @ 11:32am GMT on 2nd Oct
You are damn handsome potato. |