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Thursday, 27 April 2006

12-year-old goth and 23-year-old boyfriend accused of family's murder

quote [ The girl had posted several dark messages on the website with subject lines such as "WelcomeToMy TragicEnd" and "Are you stalking me? cuz that would be super". The latter is a quote from the dialogue in the 2002 comedy National Lampoon's Van Wilder. ]

Unrelated post to give you a better idea of the VampireFreaks community. Thumb is just a random member.

CANADIAN police appear baffled by the alleged murder by a 12-year-old "goth" girl of three members of her family in a small prairie town.

The girl was charged on Monday with first-degree murder along with a 23-year-old man, Jeremy Allan Steinke, reportedly her boyfriend. She cannot be named because of her age.

Police said on Wednesday they may lay further charges. Media commentators assumed these will include charges against Steinke of having sexual relations with a minor.

The bodies of the girl's parents and her eight-year-old brother were discovered in Medicine Hat, Alberta, at the weekend. At first police issued an alert for the girl, fearing she was also a victim of the killer.

Media are focusing on the fact the girl was involved in goth culture. Friends of the charged pair told a Calgary television station the girl met Steinke online at a website that caters to "gothic industrial culture".

VampireFreaks.com claims to have more than 500,000 members. The site features blogs and online journals by people with user names such as SuicideOfLove and RottingNails. Messages often focus on the despair and anger that members feel.

Reports indicate that in the recent weeks the schoolgirl had abandoned a more conventional style for a darker, goth look complete with heavy eyeliner and make-up. One of her former teachers told the Calgary Herald she was "shocked" by the rapid transformation.

The girl had posted several dark messages on the website with subject lines such as "WelcomeToMy TragicEnd" and "Are you stalking me? cuz that would be super". The latter is a quote from the dialogue in the 2002 comedy National Lampoon's Van Wilder.

The girl's profile included pictures of her in dark goth make-up and described her as being 15.

Local media are having trouble deciding how to deal with the case. Initial reports about the murders were the lead story in many outlets, but once it became apparent that the young daughter in the family was possibly the murderer, the story was played down.

[humour] [by caped_crusader@9:34pmGMT] [+10 WTF]

Comments

Jallandhara said @ 9:42pm GMT on 27th Apr
INTERNET

Dioxin said @ 12:06am GMT on 28th Apr
S!

jamjam said @ 9:45pm GMT on 27th Apr
Well, the course of action is rather obvious, really. Shut down the internet until it can be reviewed on a page-by-page basis, starting of course with the corporate sites. Only then can our children truly be safe.

shiney things said @ 9:45pm GMT on 27th Apr
that is so very very fucked up

dangerm00se said @ 9:54pm GMT on 27th Apr
I'd hit it.

caped_crusader said @ 10:09pm GMT on 27th Apr
http://vampirefreaks.com/u/mysticalPhantasia

Be my guest.

anonyme said @ 10:10pm GMT on 27th Apr
ew.

seerious said @ 10:13pm GMT on 27th Apr [Score:1 Underrated]
WTF. When did Enya become goth music?

Todomanna said @ 1:42am GMT on 28th Apr
Does this mean I have to start wearing black make-up? Well... more often?

bluemonkey said @ 11:41pm GMT on 27th Apr
GOD KILL IT PLEASE!

lsdbeta said @ 5:59am GMT on 28th Apr
fool, go to http://vampirefreaks.com/gothicresults.php?sex=female&sortby=user_rating&only_pics=0 and see the top rated girls. duh.

lsdbeta said @ 6:01am GMT on 28th Apr
wait. kill the excitement, they're also terrible. not as terrible as the other one mind you.

snowfox said @ 9:01am GMT on 28th Apr
What about killbot? At least give her credit for putting effort into being a total freak.

bluemonkey said @ 11:40pm GMT on 27th Apr
GOD KILL IT PLEASE!!

bluemonkey said @ 11:41pm GMT on 27th Apr
woo... reply to wrong post..

MastaX said @ 10:06pm GMT on 27th Apr [Score:1 Underrated]
Why do they have to throw the name Vampire in there. Vampire used to have the effect of something mysterious and/or dangerous, now it is related to emotionally disturbed teenagers that like to wear girls makeup. You bastards.

bluemonkey said @ 11:39pm GMT on 27th Apr [Score:2 Insightful]
you can thank anne rice for that one.

v0idmagus said @ 6:19am GMT on 28th Apr
She did her damage, then found religion.

racerx said @ 10:27pm GMT on 27th Apr
Who the fuck is goth at 12?

seerious said @ 10:31pm GMT on 27th Apr
Just about anyone who doesn't feel they belong, and desperately needs to find some kind of group with whom they can try and empathize.

Phaedrine said @ 10:40pm GMT on 27th Apr
So, everyone at twelve, then?

seerious said @ 10:46pm GMT on 27th Apr
Certainly alot of them. Yep. Hell, anyone from 10-25, I'd say, are susceptible to the "goth" influence.

shiney things said @ 9:01am GMT on 28th Apr
thats what i was thinking. she might be a little goth-y girl, but is not a part of gothe culture. real goths are reletively normal adults who frequent clubs and the music scene and such. they have real things in life to worry about (ie a job with a dress code). they dont look like they fell into hot topic, the just wear a bit more black etc.

NuppleHopper said @ 10:33pm GMT on 27th Apr [Score:2 Informative]
Whenever crime happens in your neighborhood, it's easy to figure out the culprits! Just use the...

EZ-Blame (tm) Checklist:
(check all that apply)

[] Video Games
[] Internet
[] Marilyn Manson
[] Terrorists
[] Your neighbors (who are probably terrorists)

whatitis3 said @ 6:09am GMT on 28th Apr
your forgot a couple

[] Black People
[] Imigrants

Krelian said @ 7:01am GMT on 28th Apr
[] Violent Movies
[] Music
[] Hippies

KingPellinore said @ 8:50am GMT on 28th Apr [Score:1 Underrated]
And one you'll never find on that list:

[] The Parents

ring riot said @ 11:27pm GMT on 27th Apr
I would very much like to round up all the Goth kids in America and drop them into Afghanistan and have them explain to the children there about "darkness".

relm said @ 2:21am GMT on 28th Apr [Score:1 Funny]
Your radical ideas have already occured to others. Rich white kids have nothing to complain about compared to the starving and marginalized.

I'd prefer having them meet with seriously depressed mental patients.
"So, you like to cut yourself do ya? Check out my arm. The doctors put most of it back together and now they don't let me have any metal objects, but I almost got the whole thing flayed!"
"You think you understand darkness? I ate a dog once, while it was still alive."

Warning signs that your child may be a Goth

madpride said @ 2:27pm GMT on 28th Apr
"The internet may be a good substitute for television,
but is it a good substitute for what television replaced?"...

The Answer

Dance, Monkeys, Dance

http://www.ernestcline.com/dmd/

kid stardust said @ 12:15am GMT on 28th Apr
if your 12 year old is dating a 23 year old man, well, you're pretty much reaping what you've sown. who gives a fuck that there's hot topic clothes involved?

ImSuchAGoth said @ 12:19am GMT on 28th Apr
I hate my parents I'm a rebel I hate my brother and his stupid little dog I hate police I hate my friends I hate school I hate life I hate everything and anything I'm so sad I'm so depressed I want to kill myself.. scratch that I wanna kill everybody that has to deal with everything else I hate.. any guys like.. twice thrice, four times my age want to help? There will be sexual favours involved.

btw i'm 8, i dress in only black, my parents are stupid so i steal all my makeup haha! stupid stores, they can't stop me.. nobody can stop me..

/goth

Oh how the kids of today have changed...

madpride said @ 12:36am GMT on 28th Apr
You have to admit guys who paint their nails black are hot.
It is funny they want to look dead. I predict in the future you
can go to a hospital (goth one) and have them stop your heart for real.

flat_michael said @ 12:44am GMT on 28th Apr
why is it that i always see fat chicks dressed gothic?

Bodnoirbabe said @ 1:58am GMT on 28th Apr
Because black is slimming.

relm said @ 2:17am GMT on 28th Apr
People turn to this image when they feel society rejects them or does not understand them. Society tends to reject overweight girls, and so the overweight girls tend to have more self esteem problems (or at least, more overt self esteem problems) and turn to things like this to try to comfort themselves.

Do not confuse them with the 20 year old women who decide that dressing up in black latex would be an awesome idea before going out dancing, which is nothing but HOT HOT HOT

Tirade said @ 1:32pm GMT on 28th Apr
There are very few things in this world hotter than hot goth chicks.
Unfortunately, they are indeed rare creatures.

madpride said @ 2:03pm GMT on 28th Apr
+10

Kat said @ 1:20am GMT on 28th Apr [Score:1 Underrated]
I can just see the girl thinking something like this:

'Mom and dad sent me to my room for wearing black eyeliner. They don't understand how deep and dark my soul is after these long 4 weeks of my life! It's like they deserve to die! And I'm sure there's nothing wrong with me being 12 and having a 23 year old murderous boyfrien!. I'm sure he's well adjusted and well have a Tim Burton themed wedding and everything will be really cool!'

Two words: Bitch slap.

Bodnoirbabe said @ 1:58am GMT on 28th Apr [Score:1 Insightful]
The part that made me sad wasn't the parents. It was her 8 year old little brother. That's truly fucked.

Tirade said @ 1:58am GMT on 28th Apr
I actually have an account on that site... haven't been there in forever. I went on there figuring I can meet weird and interesting people. Unfortunately I'd say about 90% of the people there are 15, 5% are under that, and only 5% are over that. So yeah... I'll just stick with myspace and wade through the boringly normal people there.

Nihil said @ 2:41pm GMT on 28th Apr
What about getting an account at goingout.com?

theerazer said @ 4:55am GMT on 28th Apr
Nuke them all.

v0idmagus said @ 2:20pm GMT on 28th Apr
Agreed. Where's the DDoS button on this thing...

sacrelicious said @ 5:20am GMT on 28th Apr [Score:1 Underrated]
what kind of goth quotes Van Wilder?

Naruki said @ 5:54am GMT on 28th Apr
Typical ones?

sacrelicious said @ 6:03am GMT on 28th Apr
if that's the case, things have changed alot since the last time I dyed my hair black.

LordFeldo said @ 6:33am GMT on 28th Apr
just wait until you're doing it again.

sacrelicious said @ 6:46am GMT on 28th Apr
actually, I like the salt that's encroaching on my pepper. if I dyed it again it would be about having a freaky hair color, not hiding the gray.

Naruki said @ 7:31am GMT on 28th Apr
Dude, you put salt on your pecker? Does your SO not like honey or something? He/She thinks it brings out the meaty flavor, perhaps?

Nostrildamus said @ 8:33am GMT on 28th Apr
No he's talking about eating Brian Peppers.