Saturday, 20 September 2003

A simple anti-virus fix???

quote [ I learned a computer trick today that's really ingenious in its simplicity.

This trick won't keep the virus from getting into your computer, but it will stop it from using your address book to spread further, and it will alert you to the fact, that the worm has gotten into your system. ]

I received this email from a friend today. On the surface, it sounds logical enough. On the other hand, it sounds too good to be true. I would like your opinion.

HOW TO PROTECT YOUR ADDRESS BOOK!

I learned a computer trick today that's really ingenious in its simplicity. As you may know, when/if a worm virus gets into your computer it heads straight for your email address book, and sends itself to everyone in there, thus infecting all your friends and associates.
This trick won't keep the virus from getting into your computer, but it will stop it from using your address book to spread further, and it will alert you to the fact, that the worm has gotten into your system.
Here's what you do:
First, open your address book and click on "new contact," just as you would do if you were adding a new friend to your list of email addresses. In the window where you would type your friend's first name, type in AAAAAAA. Same in space labeled screen name.
Now, here's what you've done and why it works:
The "name" AAAAAAA will be placed at the top of your address book as entry #1. This will be where the worm will start in an effort to send itself to all your friends. But, when it tries to send itself to AAAAAAA, it will be undeliverable because of the phony email address you entered. If the first attempt fails (which it will because of the phony address), the worm goes no further and your friends will not be infected.
Here's the second great advantage of this method:
If an email cannot be delivered, you will be notified of this in your Inbox almost immediately. Hence, if you ever get an email telling you that an email addressed to AAA could not be delivered, you know right away that you have the worm virus in your system. You can then take steps to get rid of it!
Pretty slick huh?
If everybody you know does this then you need not ever worry about opening mail! from friends.
[] [by Doo Dah@3:03amGMT] [-10 Bad]

Comments

rangen said @ 3:08am GMT on 20th Sep [Score:1 Insightful]
uh no. You're just gonna end up with 9999 contacts + 1 fake email infected.
Doo Dah said @ 3:15am GMT on 20th Sep
I kinda had a feeling that's what would happen.

I knew there were people here with far more knowledge of viruses (virii?) than I. But, while it might not prevent outgoing emails, it would serve as a worm alert, right? (if nothing else.)
rangen said @ 3:24am GMT on 20th Sep
many of the newer worms have their own engines for sending out email. It just uses the addressbook for a list of names, then forges emails pretending to be an address from a whole range of random ones.
Doo Dah said @ 3:26am GMT on 20th Sep
so why the "overrated" mod?
Blag the Ripper said @ 3:28am GMT on 20th Sep
this stop any old ones, then?
utah said @ 3:46am GMT on 20th Sep
Is true. Worms don't wait for confirmation of delivery before launching the next email; they just blat out the lot at speed.

You'd just get one undeliverable response, followed by a host of automated antivirus responses, followed by a bunch of "WTF?" messages from your friends.
mugabo said @ 5:36am GMT on 20th Sep
you correctly predicted this one, but then the whole thread degenerated into a pissing match. but, as previously demonstrated, doo dah can write but not read.
madbunny said @ 3:14am GMT on 20th Sep [Score:1 Funny]
i have no friends to worry about. :P
Doo Dah said @ 3:27am GMT on 20th Sep
so why the "overrated" mod?
Starjump said @ 3:38am GMT on 20th Sep
I got an email today from MS Corporation Internet Security Department, says the attachment is a patch to help fix the recent security issues.
When I scanned it it found, Worm.Automat.AHB anyone know anything, symantec are in the dark...
Shep said @ 3:45am GMT on 20th Sep [Score:1 Insightful]
Might be this... http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/patch.asp

Remember, if Microsoft e-mails you a security patch... well, never mind. Microsoft doesn't e-mail security patches.
Doo Dah said @ 3:49am GMT on 20th Sep
I was gonna say that, but since all the lefty aliases are down modding me, I thought it might be a trap.
mugabo said @ 4:39am GMT on 20th Sep
i'm right-handed; what does being left-handed have to do with this at all?
matt said @ 7:17am GMT on 20th Sep
... Doo Dah, it's game over. Give up, you lost, and you kicked the winning goal into your own net.

There is no left wing conspiracy in this thread, there's just you doing a mediocre post then destroying yourself and any remaining chance the post has by being a fool.

If you've any sense left, you'll shut up and let the thread die.
Doo Dah said @ 8:02am GMT on 20th Sep
"There is no left wing conspiracy in this thread, there's just you doing a mediocre post then destroying yourself and any remaining chance the post has by being a fool."

Okay, matt, are you telling me that you really don't give a damn?

matt said @ 8:44am GMT on 20th Sep
I'm telling you that you're being paranoid, and in this thread you're your own worst enemy. I thought you would have learnt your lesson after the way you handled the last thread like this. I give a damn about real abuses of the system, and I don't see that here.
tbt10f said @ 5:29am GMT on 20th Sep
Ive gotten about 15 of them in a day, along with a bunch of 142K 'undeliverable' messages with a broken attachment. Dunno whats going on with it.
Doo Dah said @ 3:46am GMT on 20th Sep
So...roryapsel, why the "bad" mod?
Sanji said @ 4:01am GMT on 20th Sep
I'm giving this a "bad" because it is pointless and worthless. It's already been said that it's not going to work, anyone who's read about how the worms work know they don't verify addresses. So yes this is a pretty pointless post in general. Simpler fix to avoid virii... don't open attachments without 1) scanning them for virii first 2) don't know what they are 3) don't use outlook, probably the simplist of them all.
Doo Dah said @ 4:06am GMT on 20th Sep [Score:-1]
So...you think it's better to tell people to not read this discussion? People who may have the same question as I did? To discourage people from reading your brilliance?

Sounds pretty lame to me.
mugabo said @ 4:38am GMT on 20th Sep
ring, ring. doo dah, this is reason calling.

viruses don't care about what can or can't be delivered. welcome to the www, btw.
Doo Dah said @ 5:52am GMT on 20th Sep
Is that you, longhair...or Influenza?
Blag the Ripper said @ 5:54am GMT on 20th Sep
Keep racking up those negative mods...
Vansander said @ 4:41am GMT on 20th Sep [Score:1 Funny]
-1 Bad because you're being a chump about mods. Take 'em like a man.
Doo Dah said @ 5:03am GMT on 20th Sep
Hmmm...okay. I merely asked for an explanation as to why they had down-modded me. You say that's being a "chump."

Whatever, dude...or is it dudette?
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Blag the Ripper said @ 5:08am GMT on 20th Sep
Gimme a break... they're entitled to their opinion.
But if you really wanna get more negative mods, keep taunting 'em.
Doo Dah said @ 5:11am GMT on 20th Sep [Score:-1 WTF]
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Blag the Ripper has this to say

blah blah blah
Blag the Ripper said @ 5:14am GMT on 20th Sep
Yeah, no shit, that's my profile.
Did you notice I modded up THIS post, Dick Tracy?
Wish I could take it back...
Doo Dah said @ 5:13am GMT on 20th Sep
And I merely asked for an explanation as to why they down-modded me.

I take it you think that's too much to ask???
nurse said @ 5:13am GMT on 20th Sep
holy fuck, stop whining already.
Doo Dah said @ 5:21am GMT on 20th Sep
And I merely asked for an explanation as to why they down-modded me.

I take it you think that's too much to ask???

mugabo said @ 5:32am GMT on 20th Sep
you can write but you can't read? checking the dates and times of previous responses to your uninspired post, i'd guess that you know that you know exactly why your post is being downmodded to the -10 that it deserves.
Doo Dah said @ 5:41am GMT on 20th Sep
Ummm...because you just couldn't stand to see me do a non-political post???
mugabo said @ 6:16am GMT on 20th Sep
as dumb as i am, i can state with utmost certainty that you're far to stoopid to post anything of political importance.

or maybe you're just drunk and having a bad night. do you need another hug?
Doo Dah said @ 7:02am GMT on 20th Sep
"you're far to stoopid"

I take it you meant, "far too stupid? Or were you posting phonetically?

Blag the Ripper said @ 5:34am GMT on 20th Sep
I modded you up bro, but for some reason he disagreed!
mugabo said @ 5:28am GMT on 20th Sep
welcome to the www. rtfm already
k1w1 said @ 8:32pm GMT on 20th Sep
Why the fuck do you have time to search thru people's stats is beyond me!
duncs said @ 5:22am GMT on 20th Sep
doo dah, that wasn't a topic to waste a post on. you shoulda asked someone on IRC or something. calm down, if you keep acting like that, more and more people are going to mod you down. just put more thought into your next post, and you'll get a higher score. you're trolling now, btw.
lordanthony said @ 5:24am GMT on 20th Sep [Score:1 Funny]
Wheeeeee this is fun.
Don't worry about the mods, it's not the end of the world.

Oh and to save you the time :

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Doo Dah said @ 5:45am GMT on 20th Sep
Well, so much for matt's new idea for "regulating" posts.

It won't work.
mugabo said @ 5:54am GMT on 20th Sep
now, if only matt could regulate the temperament, intelligence, and sociability of those who uses this site...

(but drunken posts are my favourite!!)
matt said @ 7:12am GMT on 20th Sep
you're digging exactly the same hole you did last time. rather than backing off and taking the hit, you just keep flinging shit back and making things worse.

the post itself might have garnered a mild negative or a 0 score if you'd left it aloe, or played it well. the idea in the post is pretty shocking. but you've alienated everyone in the thread and dragged yourself down along with the post.

the system hasn't failed, it's worked fine.
Doo Dah said @ 6:02am GMT on 20th Sep

Well, it should be obvious to anyone who examines this post that you guys are modding me, not the content of the post.

All they have to do is look at the Post Moderation.

Whatever.

Blag the Ripper said @ 6:02am GMT on 20th Sep
You're impervious to reality.
I'm leaving, but thanks for the laughs!
mugabo said @ 6:09am GMT on 20th Sep
inital negative mod was for your post, but subsequent negative mods on your comments had more to do with you and your personality(ies).

are you having a bad day? do you need a hug? it's ok to cry.
mugabo said @ 6:11am GMT on 20th Sep
thanks for the validation, poo-pah.
Doo Dah said @ 6:28am GMT on 20th Sep [Score:-1 Flamebait]
You're welcome, suckado.
Doo Dah said @ 6:40am GMT on 20th Sep
(is that you, longhair?)
matt said @ 7:13am GMT on 20th Sep [Score:1 Funny]
oh for fuck's sake doo dah, you're a lost cause. i can't help you if you won't help yourself.

suck it up, you're earning every hit you take in this one.
mugabo said @ 6:22am GMT on 20th Sep
i'm done playing. feel free to go dredge up any of my posts and/or comments and downmod them all, because i could care less about karma.

my definition of "karma" is beyond the scope of this, or any other, site or online persona. modding you down tit-for-tat every time you modded me down was funny for a while, but i'll be the bigger man and admit defeat to your superior inferiority complex. you win. congratulations. can i hug the winner now?
Rammek said @ 10:25am GMT on 20th Sep
Allow me to put the final nail in the coffin of a dumb-ass post.

Doo Dah, you're a whiney bitch to the nth degree. STFUKTHXBI.
mancko said @ 11:58am GMT on 20th Sep
Man, I gotta admit, at this point, I've been coming to SE pretty much daily for more than 2 years...

But I still just live for these posts. I will click

Filtered: [-10: Bad by Whoever]

every single time. This stuff is more entertaining than most of the posts these days.

Oh, yeah, and Doo Dah: Sometimes posts just don't go your way. In cases like this, the best thing to do is just duck and cover. Quit being a wank-a-thon...
Mr. Langosta said @ 12:17pm GMT on 20th Sep
Wow, this is like performance art at this point.
De_Wr0ng said @ 12:26pm GMT on 20th Sep
Doo Dah,

I think you got modded down initially cause this is really a google search question.

The rest of the neg mods, well, uhhh, Just you man.

IMHO
huh? said @ 12:26pm GMT on 20th Sep
+1 For the entertainment value of the posts. -2 For attacking everyone.
vagabond said @ 12:48pm GMT on 20th Sep
you're a fucking dick.
-1 fucking dick
boneration said @ 1:10pm GMT on 20th Sep
QUEL MORON!!!

That's you, btw. The post is stupid beyond measure. I dub thee -1 Bad.
lordanthony said @ 1:45pm GMT on 20th Sep
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Jesus Christ.
k1w1 said @ 8:29pm GMT on 20th Sep
Doo Dah it's about time someone tells you you're an idiot......
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graham said @ 2:02am GMT on 22nd Apr
-1 repost.
letoofdune said @ 3:30am GMT on 22nd Apr
-1 Haunting old posts.
Blag the Ripper said @ 3:45am GMT on 2nd Mar
I command you to ADVERTIZE

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